BOWERS RACING ENGINES
08-22-2007, 10:37 PM
#54
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Location: Fort Collins,Co
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OK. I've recently gone through living hell with Bret. I live in Fort Collins so there's no mail-order situation, you get the same thing walking through the front door.
DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING HE TELLS YOU. He told me the same garbage about his phone box getting flooded- I don't think so, that's not the way things work around here. All local vendors are stopping his charge account, phone's shut off for non-payment, same with the website. His employees bitch because people come by and yell at them for Bret's actions. How about his cell phone number? Here- 970-222-6866. He's a true con artist, the kind that will instantly defuse an angry person when they walk in the door. Once again, don't believe anything he says, he is an expert at making up stories that people fall for.
He finished my engine 3 months after he said it would be done and that was with taking a lot of time off work and stopping by multiple times per week. When I stopped to pick my stuff up (after spending several hours in the incredibly dirty, disorganized shop) he couldn't find my cam, lifters and timing set- they grew legs and walked off. Then to make matters worse he said I could write one check to be deposited immediately and leave him another signed check for the remainder that he PROMISED would only be taken to the bank when I said so and he was OK with that taking a couple weeks since all parts were paid for long ago. Well guess what, he deposited the check without any notification of any sort, which completely tanked my checking account- multiple overdraft fees went with all this. I stopped in this morning angry as hell and he put on his nice guy hat and promised to take care of everything, even saying he'd bring me cash in person at my workplace later in the day. You guessed it- no phone call, no nothing.
I have contacted the BBB and am thinking about notifying the police, unfortunately for me he did have a signed, dated check.
Bret if you're reading this SCREW YOU PAL you're gonna get what's coming to you, karma's a mean SOB.
If you have anything there get it now, it can't be long before this POS locks his doors.
DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING HE TELLS YOU. He told me the same garbage about his phone box getting flooded- I don't think so, that's not the way things work around here. All local vendors are stopping his charge account, phone's shut off for non-payment, same with the website. His employees bitch because people come by and yell at them for Bret's actions. How about his cell phone number? Here- 970-222-6866. He's a true con artist, the kind that will instantly defuse an angry person when they walk in the door. Once again, don't believe anything he says, he is an expert at making up stories that people fall for.
He finished my engine 3 months after he said it would be done and that was with taking a lot of time off work and stopping by multiple times per week. When I stopped to pick my stuff up (after spending several hours in the incredibly dirty, disorganized shop) he couldn't find my cam, lifters and timing set- they grew legs and walked off. Then to make matters worse he said I could write one check to be deposited immediately and leave him another signed check for the remainder that he PROMISED would only be taken to the bank when I said so and he was OK with that taking a couple weeks since all parts were paid for long ago. Well guess what, he deposited the check without any notification of any sort, which completely tanked my checking account- multiple overdraft fees went with all this. I stopped in this morning angry as hell and he put on his nice guy hat and promised to take care of everything, even saying he'd bring me cash in person at my workplace later in the day. You guessed it- no phone call, no nothing.
I have contacted the BBB and am thinking about notifying the police, unfortunately for me he did have a signed, dated check.
Bret if you're reading this SCREW YOU PAL you're gonna get what's coming to you, karma's a mean SOB.
If you have anything there get it now, it can't be long before this POS locks his doors.
08-24-2007, 07:45 AM
#55
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BOWERS RACING ENGINES
I HAVE A BOWERS 540 STREET ENGINE WITH THE SOLID ROLLER CAM.I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE WITH THE SAME ENGINE COULD PROVIDE ME WITH THE CAM SPECS SINCE IT HAS BEEN TWO MONTHS SINCE I RECEIVED THE ENGINE AND HAVE YET TO RECEIVE ANY SPEC OR DYNO SHEETS.I HAVE ALSO NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET IN CONTACT WITH MR. BOWERS TO ASK HIM MYSELF.MY ORDEAL WITH BOWERS IS DITTO TO EVERY NEGATIVE POST ON THIS TOPIC FROM MISSING PARTS THAT I PAID FOR,AND HAVE YET TO RECEIVE, TO PROBLEMS WITH THE ENGINE.I HOPE THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS THE UNFORTUNATE PLEASURE IN DEALING WITH THIS LIAR.
08-24-2007, 08:13 AM
#56
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probably he billed thru a dentist friend because he lost his credit card terminal privileges
get this resolved before it is too late.....
08-27-2007, 06:30 PM
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I HAD BRET BOWERS BUILD ME AN ENGINE AND I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH IT I HAVE RAN IT FOR 2 YEARS NOW AND IT STILL RUNS MID 11:00 I HAVE TAKEN IT BACK AND HAD IT CHECKED IT OUT AND EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT. AT THE END OF THE SEASON I AM PLANING TO HAVE THEM GO THROUGH IT AND MAKE IT BETTER. IT TOOK HIM ALITTLE LONGER THEM HE SAID IT WOULD BE BUT IT WAS WEARTH THE WAIT.
08-27-2007, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CHEVYNOVA1964
I HAD BRET BOWERS BUILD ME AN ENGINE AND I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH IT I HAVE RAN IT FOR 2 YEARS NOW AND IT STILL RUNS MID 11:00 I HAVE TAKEN IT BACK AND HAD IT CHECKED IT OUT AND EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT. AT THE END OF THE SEASON I AM PLANING TO HAVE THEM GO THROUGH IT AND MAKE IT BETTER. IT TOOK HIM ALITTLE LONGER THEM HE SAID IT WOULD BE BUT IT WAS WEARTH THE WAIT.
08-27-2007, 07:11 PM
#59
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Originally Posted by CHEVYNOVA1964
I HAD BRET BOWERS BUILD ME AN ENGINE AND I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH IT I HAVE RAN IT FOR 2 YEARS NOW AND IT STILL RUNS MID 11:00 I HAVE TAKEN IT BACK AND HAD IT CHECKED IT OUT AND EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT. AT THE END OF THE SEASON I AM PLANING TO HAVE THEM GO THROUGH IT AND MAKE IT BETTER. IT TOOK HIM ALITTLE LONGER THEM HE SAID IT WOULD BE BUT IT WAS WEARTH THE WAIT.
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08-28-2007, 01:06 PM
#60
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Location: North Georgia "GODS COUNTRY"
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Originally Posted by ubolt
Got some great news today. Bret called. He did have to use his buds C/C reader to charge the trans. Whew. As for the shop phones, all the rain we've been experiencing hit him hard too. Flooded his phone box at the shop and he's had the phone company out there the past few days trying to fix it. He's planning to ship me the remainder of my parts which facilitates my mock up into the car, that helps tons. He also stressed he needs to be with there when we start up the car which eases my mind. Thats a good sign that he'll stick behind his work. Thanks for your guys input and hopefully all your issues are sorted out!