firebird89

OK I just got another pm asking me why I don't tell my side of the story. Like I said in my last post--go back several pages and read the strory line people. I explained my stroy in quite detail several pages back and early on in this series of events. If you can't read back far enough to get the story from the begining, keep your accusations to yourself. I wasn't aware that it had even come active here on the forum again til just a few minutes ago when I got home from work. I seriously could care less if he sells the car or not. In all actuallity the car is a very nice piece of equipment---it's the seller you need to be careful of. And that is my whole point behind the postings. Bottom line is he took the car agreeing to send me my 1K and he'd get the title to the car in return. There's no more or no less to the story---Period!!! And to the yahoo that sent me a message on the vette wondering if I'd hold the title for the vette for ransom////NO I wouldn't, because I'd never let a car leave my sight again without having payment in full. Title or not----you simply can't trust people.

firebird89

One other small detail I'd like to point out here---on mr. honest waynes one ad for the firebird, he has it posted "no title" "bill of sale only" #1 He's known from day one this car was titled #2 he's also known for some time that he and I are having a dispute over the 1K owed and turning the title over. But he's such a great and honest guy huh? OK

Tod74

Well actually my gut is a bit too large...but thanks !! . :lol:

firebird89

anytime :wink:

waynesworld154

why dont u post a copy of your reciept so all can see how u have altered it and u never said a word about a title but i would like to thank u for at least telling the truth about the car but as far as the rest i kept telling u the truth would come out and as far as the cop listening while u and i are on the phone who cares it is called hearsay. I also had someone in the vehicle with me and the only thing she heard was my side of the conversation...as did your friend.I am not threating you with anything but the truth. there are 3 people that know what happened that is you me and god i dont like this whole sitituation i paid u you signed bill of sale then produce a title later lets just end this deal and send me the title to the car we both know the lein was wrote off a long time ago your credit union told me and the investigator that. it has been almost a year that this he said she said has been going on time to let it go just send title like u should have done in the first place remember you took the money counted it made out reciept and drove car on trailer for me shook my hand and told me good luck i got a real winning car and i have a witness to that

waynesworld154

For those of you still on the fence and to those of you who are supporting me. I have a few points about the title and why he did not disclose it to me.

1.if the title had a lien on it when it was sold he would not be able to sign it over to me.

2. the lien on the car has been written off which means the loan was not paid and the bank took a loss. Title still shows the credit union as a lien holder according to his ad # 1574778 soooo he couldn't sign the title over to me without owing at the DMV.

3. In firebirds own words (you can go back and read all posting in the forum) the bank wont remove the lean until wayne pays me the 1,000 dollars. We all know the bank doesnt care about wayne. If you have a loan the payment is due when the payment is due. The bank does not have a contract with me and the car would not have been authorized by the bank to sell unless the loan was paid.

We report You decide.......

robinhorn

firebird89, In my post I asked a few quetions and yet to see you reply to them. Care to answer all the questions????

You sure seem to make blanket statments that the cops are on the buyers side, your going to repo the car BLA BLA BLA, I would like to see you try. You had better have you ducks in a row my friend.... you could find yourself in jail on Grand Theft charges. Your about one post away from this guy owning you in court. I can tell by the statements you make you are clueless when it comes to how the court system works. You had better brush up on them and locate a good civil attorney. Care to guess the rate of a so so attorney... let us just say, $175.00 per hour. Yes that is $175.00 per hour with a minium of 8 hours paid up front $1400.00 just to review your case and offer advise. Or you could just go on people's court and have your case settled. Free trip to NY and they even pay you to be on the show. That way the whole world will see both of you and the loser will have to face the public as such.

You see the sad side of the court system is he can sue you without an attorney because he has the car and a bill of sale, you sold a car that has a title and failed to complete the proper paperwork at YOUR local "State DMV". Remember what I said before you are still liable if anything happens with that car an another person or even HIM.

The guy spent over $13,000.00 dollars and you gave him the car and now you have a title that you post showing a lein and the fact that you knew it had a lein. This only makes his case all the better.

Keep holding that title and posting it.... I will set back and laugh when it blows up in your face. Oh it will my friend it will.

Check case law for this and you will not be able to get that title out of your name fast enough. Well that is if you have anything to lose, not sure on just what you do and don't own and don't care to spend anymore time looking it up.

MEMRACING62

IF THE CAR STILL HAS A LEIN ON IT , ISN'T THE BANK STILL THE OFFICAL OWNER OF THE CAR? WOULDN'T SELLING SOMETHING THAT YOU DONT OWN BE A CRIME?

robinhorn

Yes if the bank wants to make an issue about it because the seller has made statements that he has received funds for it and is demanding the $1,000.00 be paid. Let us not forget the thing we all love most, paying the IRS. Wow now it would be a bad thing if the person who bought the car was able to provide the IRS the bill of sale and see if the seller claimed it as income at the end of the year. Remember this is cash sale for profit and has to be reported. Awww and the state who lost the taxes from the $13,500.00 sale...

I think I would keep calling the buyer all the bad names I could think of and post as many things about the sale I could only to have them used against me later. Remember anything you post in public can and will be used against you

firebird89

The bank simply wont release the lein per my request. The car was paid off before he ever even came and got it. Grand theft charges--think not. Seems to me a good majority of you dimwitted geniuses have nothing better to do than come on here and ad useless comments on a subject you know nothing about. Sorry, I don't have the time or the desire to go back and read all your questions to me---oh well, I actually work. I'm not on trial here, especially to a forum of vultures. And I certainly don't have to answer any questions to try and substantiate myself to you people. If you'd rather take the side of a sidewinder that dodges out on following all the way through with a deal---go for it!!! What's illegal is not paying someone money you agreed on--that's what's illegal so please---go ahead and take it to court here. That would save me from having to come down there to do it. Want the info wayne? The county the transaction took place in? Want the phone # of the courthouse? You want to threaten me with rediculous crap after ramming me on a deal---please follow through.