Just when you think you have seen it all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Tony the one that bought this engine in the add on racingjunk got totally screwed buy this guy.

The short block landed in my engine shop this afternoon and what a butcher job, At one time it had spun a bearing or bearings on numbe 2 or 3 rod journal or both as the whole throw is black and the crank was tuned .010 / .020.

This engine has only four 1/8 mile passes on it and the piston skirts are worn right out and the rings are worn out I would say they used some old rings as they were not new thats for sure. Tony said it smoked really bad is why he wanted some one to look at it.

It says its been line bored and line honed but after looking it over they forgot to line hone the block.

The rods were ground so bad to clear the cam there was only about 4 threads holding everything together and one rod bolt was ground twice and it looks like a triange.

When they clearance the block for the 4 inch arm they broke through into water and tried to weld it up.

This is the best part because they did not have enough clearance at the pan rails they ground the heads off some of the rod bolts so bad you can't loosen the rod bolt to get the rods out.

Sorry I don't have no pics but will get some tomorrow and post them.

This is the worst hack job I have ever seen in my life


Here is the link http://www.racingjunk.com/category/9...h-434-sbc.html

Here is his quote

This is a pic of the jounal which at one time spun bearing and was reground.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...junk400002.jpg

This is a pic of the rod bolt ground off so much you can loosen it.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...junk400003.jpg

Here is a pic of the main cap and as you can see it was never line honed as discribed in the add and in the back ground you can see where the block was welded because of they went into the water jacket which is where the water is coming from I am sure.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...junk400001.jpg

Her is a pic of the worn out rings and pistons and look at the rod bolt as its ground a like a triange and it only has 4 threads holding it. This guy should not be allowed to have a tool box. LOL

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...junk400006.jpg

Wow that is scary. That is exactly why people should at least pull the pan on an engine before buying. If they wont let you walk away.

just nasty!
 

ok, that's disgusting! :cry:

I don't think that will happen and if any one wants this garbage its just going in the dumpster as its all junk.

Go back there and break his legs....

What a mess!!

Thats funny I don't care what you say LOL

Hey Carl,
since you're visiting the forum more often. I've been contracted to build a needle bearing cam system for a 4 cyl. Datsun, road racing team out of Az. I have the overhead cam stands and the original cam jurnal size is 1.880, i'll grind it down the to the needle bearing size and re nitrate it, i'm thinking i can buy the needle cam bearings that are used in NASCAR or the ones sold by Comp cams. PROBLEM, is that i know the cam bearings are 1. 868 ID, but what is the OD of these bearing, also the width, do they have oiling holes or do they only use spash. I have an EDM hole popper, so i can put in a small hole for oiling to the bearings, i can also run a rail oiling system to the rockers located below the cam.
I guess my main question is what size are the cam bearins OD and ID, plus the width.

Thanks in advance Carl.

Zip.

A 1.868 would be a stock SBC cam journal and the roller bearings I can't remember the P/N is but any how the housing bore we machine the block to is 2.250. And they do offer a wide and a narrow bearing.

Check with CV Products as theu have them in stock.

Hope this has helped!!
Carl

I guess Tony is a little upset over this engine and how it was built seeing it says a fresh 434 and the rings look to be used and it was never line honed and the rods were hacked to death plus the blocks was welded up and I would say say thats where the water was leaking from. I gues he wants to go after him for a selling a bogus peice. Tony at this point does not care what it cause in the end. But does not want to get stuck with a junk engine.

But after talking to the seller he paid someone to build this engine and was unaware what was done and sounds like he wants to make it right with Tony the owner.

Lets see how it works out but for now, It will have to stay at the shop for a while to see if it resolved or it ends up in court.

Thanks for the update Carl. Keep us posted if you can.

Thanks Carl,
I don't know if i have that much room on the cam stands since there is a head bolt inside the 8MM mounting bolt. I have found some Timkin draw cup needle bearings that are 1.760 ID with a 2.050 OD. I have 3 wire EDM machines available and had planned to cut the stands in the middle with a .015 wire and then recut the bore for .001 locking force on the bearing. Biggest problem is the parts are in Ms. shipped to my other residence while i'm in La. at this time, so i can't get all the measurments, but i do appreciate the input and thanks for answering. I'm thinking that i will turn down a cam jurnal to 1.760 and see if i can pass a dummy ring over the cam lobes, if i can it's a winner.

Zip.

I have had a few calls about the free short block but I have to hold on to it for a while as it sounds like the AG's office in Florida maybe looking in to this matter if its not resolved between the 2 parties.