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TheYellaBrick
07-05-2012, 06:39 PM
:D :D :D Couldn't resist that kids.....

I own a 1997 Honda accord wagon that I use as one of my service rigs....I know, I know, ricer, BOOOOOOOOooooooooo............
Any way I had this unnatural noise coming from under the timing belt area. Had to make a specialized tool for holding the crank pulley still while I broke loose the crank bolt(190 ft lbs). I got everything exposed, it's not the belt tensioner, water pump, or balance shaft making that rattle, shrieking noise, but a separate pulley thing-a-ma jig on the firewall side. For the life of me I cannot see what the heck it IS or drives.
Here's my NEED; I cannot find ANYwhere online a blow up diagram of the front of this engine. Haynes manual is garbage, gives you enough info to get into serious trouble. No one in this small town USA has anything on it.
It is NOT the Vortec engine but is the regular 2.2 4 banger.
Anyone steer me in any direction besides crazy ? :shock: :shock:
mopar1968
07-05-2012, 06:42 PM
Can you take a picture of it and post on here :?: :?:

Check this out Double-D Is this what your talking about :?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r08PToVy4f0


Mark
MEMRACING62
07-05-2012, 06:49 PM
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TheYellaBrick
07-05-2012, 07:02 PM
Bottom looking up;

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee293/Driver_of_Miss_DD/IMG_0986b.jpg
fast75vega
07-05-2012, 07:08 PM
i believe that is your oil pump drive gear .... :wink:

i can double check on all data for ya too
TheYellaBrick
07-05-2012, 07:12 PM
whatever it is, I gotta figure out how to get to it. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Thanks for the help guys...
mopar1968
07-05-2012, 07:15 PM
Ok Double-D according to this video it is a Balance shaft assy :!: :!:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ6x__iaFM8&feature=related


Mark
fast75vega
07-05-2012, 07:22 PM
whatever it is, I gotta figure out how to get to it. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Thanks for the help guys...

get to it? is it bad....? you need to pull all the pullys off and drop the pan... then the front cover will unbolt
TheYellaBrick
07-05-2012, 07:46 PM
Yes, it's bad. As this is an interference engine, if whatever it is freezes up, I could lose a bunch of valves. If it's the oil pump I might already have a major issue. I need pictures/diagrams so I can see what I'm dealing with. Like in the old Motors manuals.

Mark, that Eric the car guy has quite a website !
mopar1968
07-05-2012, 07:53 PM
Double-D look at this i believe your right it is the oil pump :!:


http://www.familycar.com/autoparts/honda/accord/oil_pump.html


Mark
TheYellaBrick
07-05-2012, 07:57 PM
In that video what I thought was the water pump is the balance shaft. The 'unknown' is the WATER PUMP.

So what the heck is what I thought is the balance shaft ? :?: :?: :?:
mopar1968
07-05-2012, 07:59 PM
Can you spin the gear in guestion :?:
TheYellaBrick
07-05-2012, 08:01 PM
re video;
AK ! It's not even the same engine........
fast75vega
07-05-2012, 08:01 PM
In that video what I thought was the water pump is the balance shaft. The 'unknown' is the WATER PUMP.

So what the heck is what I thought is the balance shaft ? :?: :?: :?:

according to alldata... you got it labeled right.... the one u were not sure about is your oil pump drive
mopar1968
07-05-2012, 08:03 PM
Now we know what that gear is :!: But it doesn't sound too good :!:



Mark
TheYellaBrick
07-05-2012, 08:17 PM
Found another vid with the proper engine, it IS the water pump....an EZ do.
Still want to find out what that other shaft is. Now that I think about it, that shaft on the left in my pic turns with some soft resistance as in cold oil,...oil pump maybe....

Mark, you sent me in a good direction off of that first vid.

FastV, Thanks for YOUR effort as well !
TheYellaBrick
07-06-2012, 08:06 PM
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Got the new pump installed, timing and drive belts on, spun it over to test fire it and :x :x :x :x Had a DUMBA SCHITT moment. I had reinstalled the crank position sensor but APPARENTLY did not get it seated properly cus when I cranked it over that sensor got all balled up into the drive belt. Anywhere from $75 to $234 for a new unit. :oops: :oops: :oops:
DAMN RICERS...................................