wtf or HELP.

[outlaw256]

ok guys, i know that i posted this before but i pushed the car aside and didnt mess with it anymore. now i gotta get this thing right and i cant find my old post so bear with me. my nova has one side of the exhaust turning a nice pretty glowing red. just the pass. sude other side stays like its suppose to.if timing was off both sides would glow. engine is this. 355 sbc. forged crank, 11.1 pistons.520 lift cam straight across,tunnelram and 2 600 edelbroke carbs.and all the other expensive crap to go along with it.this thing runs like it has johnny law right behind it! lol but the damn header glows. and with aluminum heads that dont make me feel real good.now i cant remeber the specs on the heads but my buddy at the machine shop set them up for me, and hes good. well he says he is anyway lol. b&m super something trans.and a 3500 stall.with the lift off glass frontend this thing lifted in the driveway(my drive is over 300ft of blacktop) but that glowing thing keeps the car turned off instead of causing trouble on the street. give me somethings to check. cause im at a lose. never seen this before in 40yrs of doing this. its something simple but since im getting kinda simple i need help.

[oldandtired]

Ken, Do you think the intake or head is warped on that side? Or maybe the gasket is not sealing?
That's the only thing that would cause all four tubes to glow when you have an open plenuim tunnel ram. JMO

[outlaw256]

to be honest i kept messing with the carbs but i didnt think of the intake leakin because , well just because lol. and please dont tell me head.i need sleep at nite and thats gonna keep me awake.im gonna spray around the intake tomorrow, what can a spray on this besides carb cleaner.never used anything but cleaner or wd 40, how about water? gotta nice pretty engine kinda want it to stay that way.lol

[TheYellaBrick]

Acetylene works.....

[Harbone]

My buddy told me to use propane one time...
it does sound like an intake leak on that side, are all 4 tubes glowin red? If they are that would have to be one hell of a leak and you would think it would be noticable in how it runs?
This is a stupid question but are the headers a matched set??

[outlaw256]

harbone,headres are matched set, all four tubes glow. and i cant find a vac. leak. even with this problem my son pulled the frontend skywards.!! in the driveway yet.well not that high but it was at least a good 8 inches off the ground.but after runnin for about 3 or 4 min. this thing starts to glow.i know its something small but its drivin me nuts, and i dont need no help for that.lol, the main reason i never checked the intake for leaks is because it runs so damn good.i have thought about putting a single 4 barrel intake on it and changing carbs around to see if that would change anything.but damn thats alot of work for a guy that cant stay bent over very long.after doing some thinkin about it i dont see how it could be 1 carb.sittin on a open plenum intake.

[Harbone]

Yeah, that makes no sense?? It could be the carbs, maybe just try swapping the positions and see what happens? :?

[TheYellaBrick]

Spark plugs the same side to side ?

[outlaw256]

yeah dd plugs are the same.im about ready to do something ive never done. take it to a shop! lol

[TheYellaBrick]

You've checked ALL the jets to make sure they are all the same on each side ? Sounds like a rich or lean condition on that side,(bear with me I'm thinkin' outloud here) like all the jets of THAT side on BOTH carbs are smaller than the other side........???????

Does that side start glowing at an idle or only after you've worked it a tad ?

[Harbone]

yeah dd plugs are the same.im about ready to do something ive never done. take it to a shop! lol


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[csx8506]

Outlaw,
Does your tunnelram have a gasket in between the plenum chamber and runners? The gasket might be broken, cracked on one side only.

[mopar1968]

Outlaw,
Does your tunnelram have a gasket in between the plenum chamber and runners? The gasket might be broken, cracked on one side only.

I agree i had that very thing happen on a Big Block Mopar once :!: Check those gaskets :!: :!: :!:


Mark

[zipper06]

yeah dd plugs are the same.im about ready to do something ive never done. take it to a shop! lol

Outlaw.'m with Harbones on this one, if it's a straight a cross manifold, not an inline manifold switch the carbs side to side and see if it one of the carbs that bad, also as Mark said check the gaskets if it's a 2 piece manifold. i'm not a fan of Edlebrock carbs but that's just me.

Zip.

[outlaw256]

yeah guys its a 2 peice manifold and the gaskets seem to be good. i replace them not long ago.i am going to ghange carbs on this thing. im gonna take the 2 carbs of my wagon and but them on the nova. if its the carbs it should clear up right then if not. i give up!! oh and DD it starts to turn red about 2 or 3 min. after its fired up.it will run like the devil is chasing it but it still glows.there a joke in there somewhere.lol

[TheYellaBrick]

It's for sure a lean condition in the idle circuit on that side carb. It's idling 'okay' cuz it's getting juice from the opposite side as well, just not enough. Once off the idle is when it's performing so good.

[outlaw256]

DD, that makes alot of sense. now if someone would just change them out for me.lol

[TheYellaBrick]

What'd you find, Ken ?

[outlaw256]

havent been able to work out in the shop the last few days .i cant walk so good.to much of this damn pain.but im going out there today come hell or high water.!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheYellaBrick]

Even if ya just switched sides with the carbs, if the opposite side starts that glowing thing, then you'll KNOW it's carb related.

[wmeabates]

Outlaw,Do you have these carbs mounted with the primaries to the front and the seconderies to the rear for each carb?Or are they sideways with the pri.to one bank and the sec to the other.Bill.

[outlaw256]

they are mounted in line. ive got 2 cars runnin 2 x 4s and only this damn nova is giving me fits. im going out today and im gonna FIX IT OR BLOW IT UP! lol

[TheYellaBrick]

Disregard what I said, I thought it was a crossways type manifold.
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you got OTHER problems, Brother. :shock: :shock:

[outlaw256]

well guys, i didnt fix it or blow it up.lol i bought a almost new used portable carport. big enough for 2 cars. have to have it down by the first of june so i gotta take care of that little bit first.i needed a place to park more cars out of the weather.i hate to spend all this time and money building and painting our cars then have to leave them sittin in the sun and rain.just aint gonna happen.

[TheYellaBrick]

Taking a little breather away from it and you'll find the problem in short order when you get back to it.......

[olds48]

im gonna take the 2 carbs of my wagon and but them on the nova

:lol: Dual carbs on everything! How can you not like this guy!?!?

Crazy problem you got there bud.I only wish I could help.Good luck to you. As far as taking it to a shop...i bet you know more about it than they do 8)

[outlaw256]

you got more confidence in me olds than i do in myself! i bought the gaskets to do a carb swap but im goaa need the wagon this weekend for a car show so when i get that out of the way it will be this sunday. if this thing turns red im sellin it!

[olds48]

Sunday was officially ten minutes ago...any luck? :lol:

[outlaw256]

ok guys heres what happened. i took a carb off my 53 ranchwagon EDELbrock 1404 and put it on the nova. which has 1405s on it. started the nova up and let it idle for atleast 5 mins. never turned red. good found which carb on the first try.put the 1405 back on the nova so i could move it until i had time to rebuild it.started it back up to check for leaks and this time no red header, wtf!!!!!!!!! oh well at least its workin like its suppose to..lol it has ceramic coated headres on it. and on the side that turned red the coating is off it ,long story. anyway,that side runs hotter. we tought that because the coating is gone here comes heat. but atleast now its not turnin red!!!! could i have jared something loose like a peice of trash when i was changing carbs around?

[fast75vega]

ok guys heres what happened. i took a carb off my 53 ranchwagon EDELbrock 1404 and put it on the nova. which has 1405s on it. started the nova up and let it idle for atleast 5 mins. never turned red. good found which carb on the first try.put the 1405 back on the nova so i could move it until i had time to rebuild it.started it back up to check for leaks and this time no red header, wtf!!!!!!!!! oh well at least its workin like its suppose to..lol it has ceramic coated headres on it. and on the side that turned red the coating is off it ,long story. anyway,that side runs hotter. we tought that because the coating is gone here comes heat. but atleast now its not turnin red!!!! could i have jared something loose like a peice of trash when i was changing carbs around?

i might have been sucking air at the base plate/manifold on that side..... what kind of gasket you using?

[Harbone]

I have been haunted like that by more than one Holley carb in my time. If its working now, thats great!! :D

[TheYellaBrick]

Whatever you do DO NOT TOUCH ! :shock:

[outlaw256]

hell DD im almost afraid to move it!! lol

[outlaw256]

ok guys. i think the nova is fixed. well for now anyway. we got that thing out of the shop and in the driveway and staged it up like at a track and damn that thing is fast.well until we have to hit the brakes lol. the left bank isnt turning red and its melting tires again.now to put that glass front end on and go hunting. i love to go huntin.takes me way back.look out redlights.lol the outlaw is LOOSE again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheYellaBrick]

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