Whats with all the scammers on here lately?

[Incognegro]

Seems like tons of deadbeats and scammers on here lately.whats going on with this site? Has it gotten that out of control that you cant even purchase anything legitimately anymore. I have read like 10 scammer threads in the past 2 weeks alone.

My advice to all, is that if it seems fishy, trust your first instinct and walk away. And never pay with anything other than a Credit Card or legitimate Paypal auction, this way you can dispute the charges.

Merry Christmas to all, and to all the scammers out there, I hope you suffer a painful demise.

[MEMRACING62]

X2.... %100 Good advice & is the only way I do buisness with someone I dont know. paypal saved my azz once on ebay & credit card co returned money from a cabinet co that shut its doors & filed bankruptcy and never delivered . ( KDA CABINETS)

[Incognegro]

Anytime a seller askes for bank wire, or money order or western union, I RUN AWAY! Not Walk, RUN..

[BEAST477]

What are the problems with money orders?
I've had 14 sales on here and all I use are United States Postal money orders with no problems.
Same when I buy.
Just curious.

[mopar1968]

I also always use money order's :!: :!: :? :? From the post office :!: :!:









JMO Mark

[Tod74]

sometimes MO are fake. I know that's why people use POSTAL MO but I have heard of those being faked also.I guess Solution is just don't ship until after it's cashed.That said I wouldn't be afraid of a postal mo

[bjuice]

well let me be the 1st to say there is nothing up with the site itself.....it's business as ususal on this end...RJ is unique in its own right that we are a full service race site that involves every aspect of race cars from A-Z..which also includes a section ( forum) to discuss possible scammers and general feedback.....I been around here a long time and seen scammers in the Good times (pre-recession) and ( post recession)....

people may leave the Site to go other places but No-one will find anything out here that compares to what RJ has to offer it members and Non-members from the full feature standpoint

Now there ain't but one way to do business..I don't care how honest you think the person is or how dishonest you think they are..there is a standard protocol for buying and selling over the internet..I do not see the need in going thru the steps most of you guys that has been a round a few years know this Protocol..I will assure you any Scammer that has gotten away with a scam had the Victim way out of protocol..Had to in order to pull off the scam...its hard to pull off a scam when someone is on their game..
if anyone would like to discuss protocol for buying and selling over the net be my Guest...I know Lively and a few others can qoute it like the back of their hand...Now I have to say I have never seen a member despise a Scammer as much as Lively does....hey where has he been latley ?


I think the Vette vs Mustang thread a few days ago in the scammer section was a good example of how to conduct business..its wasn't picture perfect but it had some Good parts to it that some potential NEWBY Internet customers could learn from,

just my 2 cents

[dragonmaster093]

also between end of racing season and begining of next scammers know people are updating or replacing stuff that needs doneand use this time to make as much as they can.

[Incognegro]

well let me be the 1st to say there is nothing up with the site itself.....it's business as ususal on this end...RJ is unique in its own right that we are a full service race site that involves every aspect of race cars from A-Z..which also includes a section ( forum) to discuss possible scammers and general feedback.....I been around here a long time and seen scammers in the Good times (pre-recession) and ( post recession)....

people may leave the Site to go other places but No-one will find anything out here that compares to what RJ has to offer it members and Non-members from the full feature standpoint

Now there ain't but one way to do business..I don't care how honest you think the person is or how dishonest you think they are..there is a standard protocol for buying and selling over the internet..I do not see the need in going thru the steps most of you guys that has been a round a few years know this Protocol..I will assure you any Scammer that has gotten away with a scam had the Victim way out of protocol..Had to in order to pull off the scam...its hard to pull off a scam when someone is on their game..
if anyone would like to discuss protocol for buying and selling over the net be my Guest...I know Lively and a few others can qoute it like the back of their hand...Now I have to say I have never seen a member despise a Scammer as much as Lively does....hey where has he been latley ?


I think the Vette vs Mustang thread a few days ago in the scammer section was a good example of how to conduct business..its wasn't picture perfect but it had some Good parts to it that some potential NEWBY Internet customers could learn from,

just my 2 cents

1) No one was insulting the site just to clear that up, cause your response seemed to be geared towards that kind of insinuation. I do feel that RJ could get a little bit more involved in some aspect when someone is scammed, such as freezing the remainder of the persons adds and sales until the matter is resolved.

I just read the thread where the guy bought a SB 400 motor and received an LS1 motor that was not only not the motor pictured, but was seized. And the seller still has 3 other active adds on RJ . In this situation the seller should have his adds yanked until he surfaces and explains himself.

2) I would love to hear the proper protocol for doing business over the internet and i think that in itself should be its own thread.

[Incognegro]

What are the problems with money orders?
I've had 14 sales on here and all I use are United States Postal money orders with no problems.
Same when I buy.
Just curious.

Money orders can be counterfeit if your a seller receiving them, and it would be very hard to tell a fake one . And money orders as a buyer are as good as sending the guy cash in a brown envelope.

Also certified checks can be fake and actually clear, then a week or two come back as bad,fake or stolen.

[MEMRACING62]

What are the problems with money orders?
I've had 14 sales on here and all I use are United States Postal money orders with no problems.
Same when I buy.
Just curious. money orders can be canceled....we had a scheme going on here in chicago with apt rentals. scammer would use somebody elses ID to rent an apt & use money order to put down deposit.....Next day call & said I changed my mind, money order has already been deposited.....we issue a company check for refund, scumbag takes that check directly to our bank & cashes it.....five days later we get the charge back.....money order canceled at currency exchange the afternoon of the day there refund check is cashed.....just about every management co around us was getting hit the same way....even with money order make sure it clears before you ship!! I KNOW...I KNOW LONG STORY :roll:

[Incognegro]

What are the problems with money orders?
I've had 14 sales on here and all I use are United States Postal money orders with no problems.
Same when I buy.
Just curious. money orders can be canceled....we had a scheme going on here in chicago with apt rentals. scammer would use somebody elses ID to rent an apt & use money order to put down deposit.....Next day call & said I changed my mind, money order has already been deposited.....we issue a company check for refund, scumbag takes that check directly to our bank & cashes it.....five days later we get the charge back.....money order canceled at currency exchange the afternoon of the day there refund check is cashed.....just about every management co around us was getting hit the same way....even with money order make sure it clears before you ship!! I KNOW...I KNOW LONG STORY :roll:

My uncle lost over $10,000 taking Certified business checks. They cleared and about 1-2 months later were reported stolen, and the money was taken from his bank account.

[Harbone]

Its all about common sense like Bjuice says. If the deal seems to good to be true, it probably is :!:

Here is some info right of the RJ faq pages.

Scamming
What can RacingJunk.com do if I got scammed?

A: We can supply you with any ad and account info if you are taking legal action against this person. If you can fax over documentation that proves you are taking legal action against this person, i.e. court papers or a letter from an attorney we can disable the account, and provide a legal entity with member/ad/message information that will help you with your pursuit of this person.

What can I do to prevent getting scammed

A: It is very important that our members notify us of any potential scams or scamers right away. In addition to informing us of potential scams, we strongly encourage our members to use an ESCROW account to complete any transactions that you are not making in person. We encourage members to use an escrow service to make sure that your transaction is safely done. An escrow service protects both parties involved in the transaction. Buyers receive and inspect the merchandise before the Seller is paid. Sellers receive their money if the Buyer accepts the merchandise. For more information go to www.escrow.com.

I hear a lot of complaining about Ebay on here but I have had my account for over 10 years and have never been scammed on a buy or a sale with over 500 feedbacks. I have bought a few things on RJ but mostly from business's and a few people I have met on the forum. It still all boils down to using common sense.

[MEMRACING62]

What are the problems with money orders?
I've had 14 sales on here and all I use are United States Postal money orders with no problems.
Same when I buy.
Just curious. money orders can be canceled....we had a scheme going on here in chicago with apt rentals. scammer would use somebody elses ID to rent an apt & use money order to put down deposit.....Next day call & said I changed my mind, money order has already been deposited.....we issue a company check for refund, scumbag takes that check directly to our bank & cashes it.....five days later we get the charge back.....money order canceled at currency exchange the afternoon of the day there refund check is cashed.....just about every management co around us was getting hit the same way....even with money order make sure it clears before you ship!! I KNOW...I KNOW LONG STORY :roll:

My uncle lost over $10,000 taking Certified business checks. They cleared and about 1-2 months later were reported stolen, and the money was taken from his bank account.OUCH ! I HAVE HEARD OF THAT HAPPINING, NOT TO US.........YET.