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We balance for a lot of other shops in the area and from time to time we do put a mic on the jounals and we find that the journals are not very flat.
This is good info
http://www.youtube.com/user/cpmotors#p/u/3/mPwCsPik7KU
More info
Here is a pic of bearings run with an Ohio taper crank shaft journals
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/CNCBLOCKS/OHIOCRACKSHAFTTAPER.jpg
Here is the link to look over and this pic is from page 5
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=128035&highlight=ohio+crankshaft[/quote]
kwkracing
10-19-2010, 10:17 AM
Its ashamed the quality of parts that are sold. Great post.
Tod74
10-19-2010, 01:16 PM
my ohio crank wasn't tapered.
TheRabbit
10-19-2010, 01:59 PM
my ohio crank wasn't tapered.
I spin the snafu out of mine all the time. Of course it was checked before installing it. (and it was true. )
Tod74
10-19-2010, 04:50 PM
my ohio crank wasn't tapered.
I spin the snafu out of mine all the time. Of course it was checked before installing it. (and it was true. )
I had mine checked also. It wasn't tapered or balanced properly
kwkracing
10-19-2010, 05:54 PM
Most guys would measure that tapered crank and say it was fine, its hard to measure with a micrometer and really see the diference close the the radius of the journal. This video really should show you how .001 can be not flat.
Tod74
10-19-2010, 06:22 PM
Most guys would measure that tapered crank and say it was fine, its hard to measure with a micrometer and really see the diference close the the radius of the journal. This video really should show you how .001 can be not flat.
It is my understanding that the reason for the taper on some cheaper cranks is that they polish the journals to size...I may be wrong on that but I think I have read that on SPEEDTALK.
Mine measured within a tenth or two anywhere on the journal. I Checked it in three places on all the journals. I have all the measurements written down in a notebook somewhere. I did have bearing issues on number 2 and 4 mains. I asked the guy at Steve Schmidt to double check the crank for taper because of things I've read online and I didn't know how much was acceptable. he said it was fine. The bearing trouble was found to be caused by the rotating assembly being out od balance and the main bores in the block were too tight. It is a Merlin Block and had not been align honed when new.
TheRabbit
10-20-2010, 08:57 AM
my ohio crank wasn't tapered.
I spin the snafu out of mine all the time. Of course it was checked before installing it. (and it was true. )
First time I ever quoted myself, but anyway, mine may have had some final work done, but I don't remember SVRE saying anything about it.
Either way, if it wasn't off I'm sure it will be by the time I finish with it! :shock:
BEAST477
10-20-2010, 04:03 PM
When building my 540 tried Eagle for the crank. The first one needed to be turned .010-.010 right out of the box :shock: . The second one the stroke was off by .010 :roll: . Bought a Callies. :D
TheYellaBrick
10-21-2010, 06:30 AM
What an eye opener !
It's a total shame when American crank companies have their iron built overseas and they do not dbl check them when the cranks get into their hands here in the USA.....Quality control on such a critical engine part should be kept at the highest possible if said company wants to stay in business !
cncmotorsports
10-23-2010, 06:44 AM
What an eye opener !
It's a total shame when American crank companies have their iron built overseas and they do not dbl check them when the cranks get into their hands here in the USA.....Quality control on such a critical engine part should be kept at the highest possible if said company wants to stay in business !
I totally agree, however we as the consumer have created this problem. We are all guilty of buying the cheaper product first thinking it will work, only to cost us more in the long run.
For the most part eagle cranks are a good piece, but yes, they have main bearing, rod bearing and crank snout issues. All of which are warrantied by eagle before you use the crankshaft or balance it. Eagle is really good to work with, at least they are for us.