Kingdom Trailers?????? Located in GA

[THier]

Anyone have any good news bad news about them?

I want to reserve my opinions until I hear from others.

Thanks,
Tom

[THier]

Ok,

This has set for a couple of days,,

So I want to warn everyone about Kingdom trailers, I had a trailer delivered 1-9-10, there were a bunch of issues,

Wheels were not the wheels promised, (I could live with this)

All wiring was run through cross members, with no grommets, or protective sleeving All electrical connection are done by half taps, Salt in MD will destroy these connectors, and cause all sort of havoc with the electrical system. (I could have repaired this, and lived with it)

Rear door cables were not adjusted correctly, (I could have repaired my self)

Trailer VIN tag incorrectly listed as a 20 ft, trailer IS 22 ft ordered, (concerned about tagging issues).

Side door binds while opening. (I could have repaired)

Now things I can't deal with,

Kingdom trailers web site says "We manufacture our own custom built trailers" I have come to discover they DO NOT MANUFACTURE ANY TRAILERS. They are strictly a reseller.

Trailer LEAKS, within one week of delivery, (first rain) trailer had water pooling inside. They sent someone to fix it, within 3 days, (first time it snowed) trailer still leaks. The crew did address MOST of the other issues. They now say it is MY responsibility to take trailer 80+ miles to get it repaired, We are talking about 160 miles round trip, to deliver, then 160 miles round trip to pick it up. Plus my time, which according to the "owner" Chris, I will not be reimbursed. There is a RV place closer, but Chris will not allow me to take it there.
Chris also will not replace the trailer, or allow me to return and refund my money. I paid in full when I ordered the trailer.

All of these statements are true, I have pictures of all issues.

I am posting this as a heads up to future customers. If you are close to Kingdom, maybe these things could be handled much easier, but being 650 miles from them is proving to be difficult.

Tom

[TheYellaBrick]

A tough deal ya got going there, Tom. You need to move this thread to the Scammers section though, please.

[THERATTLER]

should have checked around the forum before buying , its full of post about trailers such as this one
http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=11348&start=0

[THier]

Also, just did a BBB search, Kingdoms site says they are "Kingdom Trailers is a better business bureau and local Chamber of Commerce member. "

They used to be "Ace Cargo trailers" and neither is accredited with the BBB. Kingdom is listed as DBA Ace cargo trailers, owner of both is Chris Singletary.

There are 2 unresolved complaints against Ace cargo trailers.

How do I get this moved to the scammers section. I orginally posted here hoping to get folks telling me they were great to deal with, and hopefully this could be worked out.

I will update this post,, good or bad.
Tom

[THERATTLER]

one of the Moderators can do it for you, thats the only way I know of..

[BEAST477]

Send Bjuice a pm about this thread and that you would like it moved to the scammer feedback section. If he sees fit he will take care of it. He is a good guy.

[mooneye777]

I went through problems with TC'S Trailers out of Frankfort Indiana several years ago. A lot of places just slam these things together and sell them quick. Mine was an open trailer with hardly any to no paint under the trailer, wire ran through frame holes burnt through with a torch no gromets, bearing grease whats bearing grease, wiring did not work period, I had to buy my own light kit and start over. They said they would fix some of the stuff if I drove the 125 mile rund trip to drop off and again to pick up. Sorry no return policy, I swallowed my pride and kept the trailer and never did business with them again.

[THier]

Update,

I talked to the "local" (80 miles away) trailer place Kingdom wanted me to take the trailer for repair, after asking me for details on problem, they do not want to get involved. Not that I blame them. Funny thing is,, their best guess, (not seeing the trailer) as far as repair costs, is the same as the place 7 or so miles from me, that Kingdom did not want to pay. Now waiting on a return call from Kingdom.

Let me say this, the office manager,, seems like a great lady, she honstly seems to be trying to help,, but the owner seems to be the issue.

I will continue to update.

Tom

[THier]

They said they would fix some of the stuff if I drove the 125 mile rund trip to drop off and again to pick up. Sorry no return policy, I swallowed my pride and kept the trailer and never did business with them again.

Funny, I was told "it's only 80 miles from you" by Chris, (Kingdom Trailers)
But he doesn't seem to realize it is 80 miles ONE WAY, with two trips across a $25 toll bridge, plus MY TIME.

Tom

[THier]

Well,, the saga continues. After speaking with Lynn, the office manager, they are supposedly building me a new trailer, and useing a wrap over roof. I'm not sure how that will work with a slnted V nose. Also, it was supposed to be done "within 30 days" well the 30days are up. They have sent me another temp tag, which expired, so they sent another. Trailer is still not here, I will be filing a complaint with the BBB Friday if I don't get better news.
I will continue to update.

Tom

[THier]

Heads up for everybody, Kingdom trailers is now advertising they are in Indiana and Arizona as well as Georgia. All I ever get from these guys is "one more week" DO NOT BUY FROM KINGDOM TRAILERS" they sing a great song about how "christian" they are,, but they are in fact acting the apposite.

Going on three months of a junk trailer.

Tom

[xsvn2o]

Sounds like you paid for a cheap trailer and received a cheap trailer . I own 2 trailers . One is a pace 24ftr . It was around $7000 in 2001 and it is a decent trailer but is showing its age . I spent $30,000 and went with am H&H a few years later and it seems to be a much better trailer . The pace has needed some things time to time but that is to be expected (it was 1/4 the price of the other trailer). In order for one trailer to be drastically different in price it only stands to reason that there is an equally drastic difference in quality and craftsmanship . but If you buy a cheap POS don't bitch if that's what you get . The cheapest is usually the cheapest for a reason . I read these posts about the folks who sell engines from Henderson Nevada and wonder who is really at fault . They sell motors for basically what the parts cost . Seriously can anyone reasonably expect you will receive a quality piece when the labor to assemble the engine is billed out at around $10 an hour ?? The point is you bought a pile of $hit trailer . Get over it . You were not scammed . You were burned because you tried to save a buck . Everyone does it so done be ashamed by it but don't act like your front door was kicked in and your house was robbed . By the way . I am sure they cannot afford to reimburse you for gas and "the toll" because the $17 profit they pulled in after that whopper of a sale they made on your trailer was spent on lunch and lotto tickets .

[Scooterz]

Sounds like you paid for a cheap trailer and received a cheap trailer . I own 2 trailers . One is a pace 24ftr . It was around $7000 in 2001 and it is a decent trailer but is showing its age . I spent $30,000 and went with am H&H a few years later and it seems to be a much better trailer . The pace has needed some things time to time but that is to be expected (it was 1/4 the price of the other trailer). In order for one trailer to be drastically different in price it only stands to reason that there is an equally drastic difference in quality and craftsmanship . but If you buy a cheap POS don't bitch if that's what you get . The cheapest is usually the cheapest for a reason . I read these posts about the folks who sell engines from Henderson Nevada and wonder who is really at fault . They sell motors for basically what the parts cost . Seriously can anyone reasonably expect you will receive a quality piece when the labor to assemble the engine is billed out at around $10 an hour ?? The point is you bought a pile of $hit trailer . Get over it . You were not scammed . You were burned because you tried to save a buck . Everyone does it so done be ashamed by it but don't act like your front door was kicked in and your house was robbed . By the way . I am sure they cannot afford to reimburse you for gas and "the toll" because the $17 profit they pulled in after that whopper of a sale they made on your trailer was spent on lunch and lotto tickets .

That said, I wonder what your opinion really is... LOL!!!

[Harbone]

Sounds like you paid for a cheap trailer and received a cheap trailer . I own 2 trailers . One is a pace 24ftr . It was around $7000 in 2001 and it is a decent trailer but is showing its age . I spent $30,000 and went with am H&H a few years later and it seems to be a much better trailer . The pace has needed some things time to time but that is to be expected (it was 1/4 the price of the other trailer). In order for one trailer to be drastically different in price it only stands to reason that there is an equally drastic difference in quality and craftsmanship . but If you buy a cheap POS don't bitch if that's what you get . The cheapest is usually the cheapest for a reason . I read these posts about the folks who sell engines from Henderson Nevada and wonder who is really at fault . They sell motors for basically what the parts cost . Seriously can anyone reasonably expect you will receive a quality piece when the labor to assemble the engine is billed out at around $10 an hour ?? The point is you bought a pile of $hit trailer . Get over it . You were not scammed . You were burned because you tried to save a buck . Everyone does it so done be ashamed by it but don't act like your front door was kicked in and your house was robbed . By the way . I am sure they cannot afford to reimburse you for gas and "the toll" because the $17 profit they pulled in after that whopper of a sale they made on your trailer was spent on lunch and lotto tickets .

That said, I wonder what your opinion really is... LOL!!!


no crap!!!

[blownalky3]

It does not matter if you paid 7k or your 30k, if it is not as described, the roof leaks and the seller does not make it right THEY ARE SCAMMERS!!!

I do not see the point of your post, especially being your first one on here????
Just because he paid what he did, that has no bearing on leaking roofs and getting run around


Sounds like you paid for a cheap trailer and received a cheap trailer . I own 2 trailers . One is a pace 24ftr . It was around $7000 in 2001 and it is a decent trailer but is showing its age . I spent $30,000 and went with am H&H a few years later and it seems to be a much better trailer . The pace has needed some things time to time but that is to be expected (it was 1/4 the price of the other trailer). In order for one trailer to be drastically different in price it only stands to reason that there is an equally drastic difference in quality and craftsmanship . but If you buy a cheap POS don't bitch if that's what you get . The cheapest is usually the cheapest for a reason . I read these posts about the folks who sell engines from Henderson Nevada and wonder who is really at fault . They sell motors for basically what the parts cost . Seriously can anyone reasonably expect you will receive a quality piece when the labor to assemble the engine is billed out at around $10 an hour ?? The point is you bought a pile of $hit trailer . Get over it . You were not scammed . You were burned because you tried to save a buck . Everyone does it so done be ashamed by it but don't act like your front door was kicked in and your house was robbed . By the way . I am sure they cannot afford to reimburse you for gas and "the toll" because the $17 profit they pulled in after that whopper of a sale they made on your trailer was spent on lunch and lotto tickets .

[Scooterz]

X2 Alky... I thought that was a harsh post too. It is principle the original poster is talking about. The principle is that he bought something on the pretense it was "as described" to him. It was not to his expectations based on what he was sold- plain & simple. BTW: "7K" is still a lot of money to people in this economy. He did not set out to buy a used or DEFECTIVE trailer either!! Pretty harsh words from a one-time poster... arrogant too. Think about it- you were not there, did not see it, did not loose the money, get the run-around, etc... why not consider what he has had to deal with??? He came here to forewarn everyone about his experience. I appreciate that. Maybe this will not happen to someone else. Not only that, if that is how the company wants to operate, then there should be a consequence. JMO.

[THier]

I ignored the xsvn2o post,, after all he must be perfect and walk on water.

Well,,
I say stay from from Kingdom Trailers,,, They are scammers, period,, end of story.

The latest,
They called me today, said too bad, they didn't want to deliver my replacement trailer, and would come pick this one up and bring me a check for the defective trailer, minus what I paid for delivery, and the $300 I have in floor coating. I made some calls, and they called me back a little while ago, now they want to bring the replacement up,, but if any warranty work needs to be done I am responsible to take the trailer down to them from Maryland (they are in GA). Now I have to decide, be out over $1.2k, and get my money back, or take the chance on the second trailer.

Opinions? except for xsvn2o,, (keep your POS opinion to yourself.) I already have my own God, and you ain't him.

Thanks,
Tom

[THier]

OK, it's an official rip off,, they won't return calls, last I heard my replacement trailer leaked,, and they wanted me to come down there to pick it up,, yea right,, I am going to have to pay to fix this one myself. DO NOT DEAL WITH KINGDOM TRAILERS, THEY ARE NOT THE FOLKS THEY CLAIM TO BE.

Tom

[tazracing]

In the words of roy damn mercer. go down there and whop somebody ass.

[THier]

For now it is in the hands of the BBB. Kingdom has been associated with BBB since April this year, (not accredited) and mine is atleast the second complaint.

Tom

[THier]

Well,, I think I am starting to feel a LITTLE better,, no my problem has not been resolved, but Kingdoms BBB rating has changed from C- to not rated. I hope this is from my complaint.

Tom