View Full Version : What a deal, better jump on it before I do!!
hollowayshotrods
09-07-2009, 02:58 PM
Craigs list ad in eastern N.C.
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Date: 2009-08-30, 11:02AM EDT
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i need either a 350, 400, 427, or 454 motor for my 79 truck project. i am willing to trade a 305 minus carbuerator and valve covers, motor runs strong and fine. let me know what you got. james 252 229 0688
Location: new bern
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Are there really people out there that would make that trade? LMAO!
BEAST477
09-07-2009, 03:10 PM
Yeah Rudy, with a deal like that it's probably already gone. :( :lol:
fla1976
09-07-2009, 03:16 PM
Probably too late :oops:
OneBadGMC
09-07-2009, 04:53 PM
Holy crap!
I've been wanting a 305 badly! Maybe he'll take my 568 blown motor in trade!
TheYellaBrick
09-07-2009, 07:30 PM
Holy crap!
I've been wanting a 305 badly! Maybe he'll take my 568 blown motor in trade!
That IS a blown UP 568 you'll trade for that 305 ? :P :P
Tod74
09-07-2009, 09:24 PM
maybe it's a 305 from a corvette
TheYellaBrick
09-08-2009, 09:28 AM
With a 3/4 'race' cam ?
305's only came with a crooked rod for a cam, didn't they ? :roll:
Scooterz
09-08-2009, 04:53 PM
LOL!!! Yeah... that is pretty good. Although a 305 w/o a carb, intake, valve covers etc... seems fair for a BOAT ANCHOR.
MEMRACING62
09-08-2009, 04:55 PM
whats scrap bringing per ton these days?
FullTimeRacing
09-08-2009, 06:10 PM
dose anyone want to trade my monte for there dragster? :idea: :idea:
you'll be getting a deal :roll:
Tod74
09-08-2009, 06:38 PM
Yeah...How about it Hammertime? I'll trade you my Nova with no motor trans wheels or tires for your whole outfit...lol
Tod74
09-08-2009, 06:39 PM
On second thought...you can have the POS wheels.
DirkaDirka
09-08-2009, 06:53 PM
On second thought...you can have the POS wheels.
Man I have never seen anybody with so much hatred for anything.
Scooterz
09-09-2009, 02:43 PM
On second thought...you can have the POS wheels.
Now that is funny... I remember all the quotes too!! LOL!! Hell, I don't think I will ever consider buying a certain manufacturers wheels due to Tod!! LOL!!
lively
09-09-2009, 03:01 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Scooterz
09-09-2009, 04:34 PM
OK Seriously... is there a worse V8 ever made than a 305??? I mean, I would rather have a 307... or a 265 like in the tri-5's. Unless of course, it was a 305 "Corvette" motor with a 3/4 cam, balanced & blueprinted w/ "dual quads"... that would be different. LOL!!
DirkaDirka
09-09-2009, 04:37 PM
OK Seriously... is there a worse V8 ever made than a 305??? I mean, I would rather have a 307... or a 265 like in the tri-5's. Unless of course, it was a 305 "Corvette" motor with a 3/4 cam, balanced & blueprinted w/ "dual quads"... that would be different. LOL!!
Yeah they call it a 351w. IMO
lively
09-09-2009, 05:39 PM
DIRK---JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I LIKED YOU :cry: :cry:
I HAVE HAD SOME VERY NICE 351W's IN MY YOUNGER YEARS 8) 8) 8)
YOU JUST HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO BUILD THEM :wink: :wink:
MEMRACING62
09-09-2009, 05:42 PM
dirka, I think you meant 351/400 m
lively
09-09-2009, 05:43 PM
dirka, I think you meant 351/400 m
NOW THAT WAS JUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DirkaDirka
09-09-2009, 05:49 PM
DIRK---JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I LIKED YOU :cry: :cry:
I HAVE HAD SOME VERY NICE 351W's IN MY YOUNGER YEARS 8) 8) 8)
YOU JUST HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO BUILD THEM :wink: :wink:
Well I got a 84 F350 with a 351w in it and I cant get it to go above 45 mph without dying. It has all the power on the world till it hits 45 mph. thats the only reason why I say that. :lol: :lol: Its sad when a 88 F250 with a 460 that has over 300,000 miles runs better than that POS
BEAST477
09-09-2009, 05:54 PM
DIRK---JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I LIKED YOU :cry: :cry:
I HAVE HAD SOME VERY NICE 351W's IN MY YOUNGER YEARS 8) 8) 8)
YOU JUST HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO BUILD THEM :wink: :wink:
Well I got a 84 F350 with a 351w in it and I cant get it to go above 45 mph without dying. It has all the power on the world till it hits 45 mph. thats the only reason why I say that. :lol: :lol: Its sad when a 88 F250 with a 460 that has over 300,000 miles runs better than that POS
WOW Dirka, I could've swore that in one of your earlier posts that your truck was the "Greatest" truck out there. Or not?
DirkaDirka
09-09-2009, 05:58 PM
DIRK---JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I LIKED YOU :cry: :cry:
I HAVE HAD SOME VERY NICE 351W's IN MY YOUNGER YEARS 8) 8) 8)
YOU JUST HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO BUILD THEM :wink: :wink:
Well I got a 84 F350 with a 351w in it and I cant get it to go above 45 mph without dying. It has all the power on the world till it hits 45 mph. thats the only reason why I say that. :lol: :lol: Its sad when a 88 F250 with a 460 that has over 300,000 miles runs better than that POS
WOW Dirka, I could've swore that in one of your earlier posts that your truck was the "Greatest" truck out there. Or not?
Thats my 2005 F350
BEAST477
09-09-2009, 06:04 PM
DIRK---JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I LIKED YOU :cry: :cry:
I HAVE HAD SOME VERY NICE 351W's IN MY YOUNGER YEARS 8) 8) 8)
YOU JUST HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO BUILD THEM :wink: :wink:
Well I got a 84 F350 with a 351w in it and I cant get it to go above 45 mph without dying. It has all the power on the world till it hits 45 mph. thats the only reason why I say that. :lol: :lol: Its sad when a 88 F250 with a 460 that has over 300,000 miles runs better than that POS
WOW Dirka, I could've swore that in one of your earlier posts that your truck was the "Greatest" truck out there. Or not?
Thats my 2005 F350
OK You got too many trucks. :oops:
DirkaDirka
09-09-2009, 06:07 PM
I only have 5 trucks.
2 Chevies
3 Fords
BEAST477
09-09-2009, 06:11 PM
I only have 5 trucks.
2 Chevies
3 Fords
Well at least you have two good ones in the fleet. :lol: :lol:
DirkaDirka
09-09-2009, 06:17 PM
I only have 5 trucks.
2 Chevies
3 Fords
Well at least you have two good ones in the fleet. :lol: :lol:
yeah that 88 F250 and 05 F350 are pretty good. :lol: :lol:
The Chevies are my toys. One is a 84 short bed 4x4 and the other is a 55 series one stepside
cepx111
09-09-2009, 10:00 PM
OK Seriously... is there a worse V8 ever made than a 305??? I mean, I would rather have a 307... or a 265 like in the tri-5's. Unless of course, it was a 305 "Corvette" motor with a 3/4 cam, balanced & blueprinted w/ "dual quads"... that would be different. LOL!!
Yeah they call it a 351w. IMO
HUH????
maybe a 351M
DirkaDirka
09-09-2009, 10:05 PM
OK Seriously... is there a worse V8 ever made than a 305??? I mean, I would rather have a 307... or a 265 like in the tri-5's. Unless of course, it was a 305 "Corvette" motor with a 3/4 cam, balanced & blueprinted w/ "dual quads"... that would be different. LOL!!
Yeah they call it a 351w. IMO
HUH????
maybe a 351M
Is that the other 351 besides the 351 Cleveland??
cepx111
09-09-2009, 10:12 PM
yep, the imfamous 351modified and the even worse 400modified, they were fords bastard step son.
DirkaDirka
09-09-2009, 10:16 PM
:oops: :oops: :oops: my bad :oops: :oops: :oops:
Tod74
09-10-2009, 09:40 AM
DISCLAIMER:
I don't know anything about FORDS except the distributor is in the wrong spot.
A friend of mine in High School had a Ford 4X4 and he always said it had a "351 MODIFIED 400"
I always figured he was full of crap making stuff up.....So there really was such a turd? Next question HOW the hell can it be a 351 and a 400? :?
I guess I can start saying I have a 454 modified 540.
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FullTimeRacing
09-10-2009, 10:02 AM
also the firing order isn't right :? :? :? :?
TheRabbit
09-10-2009, 10:56 AM
It's a 351 M. "M", NOT MODIFIED like many peopele call it. The M means the motor was made in Michigan. The 400 is just that a 400. BOTH ARE TURDS!! I had a good sounding 400 but the ports and intake runners are just too small to get good power out of 'em.
The best thing about a 351M or 400 is you can throw them in the river and put a 429 or 460 in it's place. :wink:
A long time ago I was a Frrrrrd guy. I do still like the late 70's 4 wheel drives.
DirkaDirka
09-10-2009, 02:20 PM
Yeah cuz they had 2 351's. One was a 351Windsor and the other was a 351 Cleveland. To my knowledge the Windsor was a small block and the Cleveland was a big block.
gungho
09-10-2009, 03:05 PM
Yeah cuz they had 2 351's. One was a 351Windsor and the other was a 351 Cleveland. To my knowledge the Windsor was a small block and the Cleveland was a big block.
Wrong again,the difference is they were made in Cleveland or Windsor Michigan,did you ever open the hood?
DirkaDirka
09-10-2009, 04:22 PM
Yeah cuz they had 2 351's. One was a 351Windsor and the other was a 351 Cleveland. To my knowledge the Windsor was a small block and the Cleveland was a big block.
Wrong again,the difference is they were made in Cleveland or Windsor Michigan,did you ever open the hood?
Ok first of all I said that was my knowledge Not fact. So before you go and open your mouth to try to degrade someone get your facts straight. It seems to me that the more you open your mouth the more stupid you look. IMO
Scooterz
09-10-2009, 04:31 PM
I would not ever be ashamed to have a 351 "C"... a buddy had one in a Mustang that ran very hard... bone stock. You would have had to put money in anything else to make it run like that. I will say that I have had a few 360's in old 4wd Fords that were complete turds though... I do agree that the 400M is the stinkiest TURD ford put out like the 305 is Chevy's worst V8 I can think of.
Ever been shocked by a distributor while the car is running??? I have. One thing I like about Fords: I would rather get shocked in the front of the motor than get it in the back while the fan blade cuts into my guts & I am flailing around trying to get away....
Man, did I just have a major REDNECK moment back there or what????
I am goin to git bak to mi TV dinnir at mi singlewide... I can hear mama hallarin at me... gotta go
DirkaDirka
09-10-2009, 04:45 PM
Yeah cuz they had 2 351's. One was a 351Windsor and the other was a 351 Cleveland. To my knowledge the Windsor was a small block and the Cleveland was a big block.
Wrong again,the difference is they were made in Cleveland or Windsor Michigan,did you ever open the hood?
Oh and if this is true then why is it that you can put the Windsor heads on a 302 but you cant put the Cleveland heads on a 302??
DirkaDirka
09-10-2009, 09:53 PM
Yeah cuz they had 2 351's. One was a 351Windsor and the other was a 351 Cleveland. To my knowledge the Windsor was a small block and the Cleveland was a big block.
Wrong again,the difference is they were made in Cleveland or Windsor Michigan,did you ever open the hood?
Yeah you might want to get your facts straight before trying ot call someone out. Here is a post from another forum about the diff of the windsor and cleveland........
Cleveland is a good bit wider. Made as a 351 not an oversized 302. Lots of variants of the cleveland heads, not all manifolds are interchangeable
OneBadGMC
09-10-2009, 10:12 PM
DISCLAIMER:
I don't know anything about FORDS except the distributor is in the wrong spot.
You sure about that? After moving the mag up to the front, I'm starting to think GM put theirs in the wrong spot. :shock:
Sure is nice not having to reach to the back of the motor to get to the dist.
DirkaDirka
09-10-2009, 10:33 PM
Yeah cuz they had 2 351's. One was a 351Windsor and the other was a 351 Cleveland. To my knowledge the Windsor was a small block and the Cleveland was a big block.
Wrong again,the difference is they were made in Cleveland or Windsor Michigan,did you ever open the hood?
Oopsy your wrong again.............
This is form one website......
Let’s start with a general overview, specifically an aid in identifying the Cleveland engine. Before the 351C, there was the 351W which was a 351ci capacity version of the original Windsor engine family - so-called because that is where the original engine factory was, Windsor, Ontario - which started life as a 221ci in 1962, but grew to encompass the famous 289 and 302ci versions through the sixties
This is from another website................
Now a 351 Windsor is really a slightly enlarged 289/302, as it's name implies it comes from Fords "Windsor" engine family (a.k.a. the 90-degree V engine family). The thin-wall cast SMALL BLOCK accepts regular sized spark plugs, uses a timing chain in the block, routes water through the intake manifold, features thin main-bearing caps, a very good oiling system, and uses the same heads for 2V & 4V versions. The heads are are small, utilizing in-line valves with relatively small ports. The valves are 1.78" intake and 1.54" exhaust, i.e. the same size as a 289/302. The valve covers are straight (front to rear), attached by 5 bolts, and when removed you can see 351 cast in the lifter valley. The small side-by side (in-line) valves are the dead give-away.
The 351 Cleveland, on the other hand, belongs to Ford's 335 engine family. This thin-wall cast BIG SMALL BLOCK uses the smaller 14mm spark plugs, has a separate front cover (bolted to the block) housing the timing chain and routing water - so that water does not go through the intake manifold, features beefy main caps (wide enough to drill for 4-bolt mains), a poor oiling system, and uses different heads for 2V & 4V versions. The heads make all the difference and these fire breathing babies make this motor the legend it is. On the 4V, the valves are HUGE, measuring 2.19" intake and 1.7n" exhaust (don't remember exactly). Valves this large are only possible via a canted valve arrangement, forming what Ford refers to as a "poly-angle" combustion chamber. The valve covers are not straight - the front is flat and parallel to the ground, but a curve twists the rear parallel to the head. They are attached by 8-bolts and when removed, there is a 4 cast into the corner of the 4V and a 2 cast into the corner of the 2V (at least in 1970). The canted valves are the dead giveaway
Do I need to continue??
cepx111
09-10-2009, 11:07 PM
Actually you can put 351W heads on a 302 AND you can put 351C heads on a 302.
FORD did just that back in 69 and 70.
It was called appropiately> the BOSS 302.
It had the infamous 351C 4V heads.
The V stood for venturi. 4V = 4 barrel carburetor.
Cp
DirkaDirka
09-10-2009, 11:20 PM
Actually you can put 351W heads on a 302 AND you can put 351C heads on a 302.
FORD did just that back in 69 and 70.
It was called appropiately> the BOSS 302.
It had the infamous 351C 4V heads.
The V stood for venturi. 4V = 4 barrel carburetor.
Cp
I knew bout the 351w but I didnt not know bout the 351c heads. Thats is some cool info.
Tod74
09-11-2009, 08:18 AM
DISCLAIMER:
I don't know anything about FORDS except the distributor is in the wrong spot.
You sure about that? After moving the mag up to the front, I'm starting to think GM put theirs in the wrong spot. :shock:
Sure is nice not having to reach to the back of the motor to get to the dist.
:lol: You sound like my father. He used to run Fords a lot. I made a crack about getting a finger in the fan working on it...he would say "Yeah I'd much rather be gutted while leaning to the back. :roll: :)
Tod74
09-11-2009, 08:19 AM
Dirka I think Gungho was yanking your chain.
shybx1969
09-11-2009, 08:31 AM
Gee i gotta 305 4bbl in my monte!!!!Come on guys ill trade fer one of yer race engines....no ???? asked!!!!! :D :roll:
MEMRACING62
09-11-2009, 01:25 PM
orrrrrrr.......... is dirka yanking gungho's chain hmmmmm.....! :shock:
DirkaDirka
09-11-2009, 01:44 PM
orrrrrrr.......... is dirka yanking gungho's chain hmmmmm.....! :shock:
I dont yank another mans chain :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :twisted: