(( WARNING )) DYNOFLO ENGINES BAD DEALINGS [Archive] - Page 2

bjuice

05-18-2007, 06:11 PM

I sent Scot the email below yesterday morning and he replied back to me around 5pm .Whats funny is he says George is displeased with me
Thats funny George is My Best friend and by the time he finished reading it it had him scratchin his head .

From: fastbowtie To: dynoflo Date: 2007-05-17 10:06:33
Subject: Scot
Re: Ad #809660
Message: Scot
I strongly suggest that you contact George Pils at southern Style Racing Engines PH# 727-546-7000
About the 454ci sbc
That you sold George Douklias & I
It appears that not only was it incorectly assembled but It,s also Not A 454ci Engine with A 4.185 bore
It,s A 441ci with A 4.125 bore .

And I really hope you dont try to claim that we switched blocks or anything else .We traced the serial # on the block that you sold us back to you and can prove that it wasnt switched .Mr Douklias & I dont plan on sueing you Though we should .
We think it,s better to inform everyone And show just how you treat your problems and the work that comes out of DynoFlo .

You have cut down & belittled me & many other people in your post,s even to the point of slander here on Racing Junk and I personally dont like it.

The way you have handled this whole ordeal borders on insanity .I have given you several chances and even the Moderator told you if you tried to settle this He would delete the intire Thread and all you did was Yell at him in caps.

This problem IS NOT going away by trying to ignore it or sending letters to Racing Junk or other web sites threatening them to remove post,s about You & DynoFlo .

Its going to take you growing some nuggets and owning up to the fact that your company can A mistake and make it rite with everyone involved or have publicly trashed on the internet because you have really shot yourself in the foot on this one .

Donn Waters 727-560-8549

Here is Scot,s reply

From: dynoflo To: fastbowtie Date: 2007-05-17 17:00:03
Subject: Re: Scot
Re: Ad #809660
Message: George Duklias and I already spoke together about you, and boy is he not pleased with you. I have someone else handling the internet issues, and they will get it fixed. I am no longer going to involve myself in these issues, since, of course, these issues are completely out there and not worthy of a response. George is regretting not having me fix the engine [remember that? that is called stepping up.], though he does feel that George Pils is a good guy. My customers know how to read through the stories on the internet, and actually sales are up as a result, they call to have me explain it, then they laugh about you or Jay and then they buy from me. The truth is a powerful tool. Someday you may get to the point to understand, how you and your buddies discredit yourselves to my benefit. I have given more shop tours in the last few weeks than in a long time. Once you get the tour,see the parts, see the equipment, see the people, see the shop you are going to buy. Just that simple.

Scot Here is A hint you giving Japaniese Tourists shop tours dont count
I just had to say that before someone else did :lol:

WAIT A MINUTE...this SCOT guy is dumber than i thought...i CANNOT believe he would even try to make the CLAIM THAT THIS EPISODE HAS INCREASED HIS BUSINESS...

ohhh HOW DOES THIS SOUND !!!!

i read an article that has been reviewed over 18,000 times on how you really screwed up a dudes motor...so WE JUST THOUGHT WE WOULD SPEND AN EXTRA $10,000 WITH YOU IF YOU WILL TAKE US ON A SHOP TOUR !!!!!!!! LMAO...

Come on man...thats some funny Shit right there Now....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brian...i am still laughing..

lotsof454sss

05-18-2007, 06:26 PM

Well I pulled a satellite view of "this shop" and if tours are being taken they don't last 5 minutes and that includes coffee with the guys and time to inspect the torque wrench that made him famous..I heard it is now placed in a glass case and looks like the day it was bought new and is also known as "THE WRENCH YOU CAN SC*EW YOURSELF WITH" made in China...Boosted the shop tours HAHAHAHAHAHA who the hell you think your convincing? This is not a bunch of school kids, it WAS your customer base.

fastbowtie

05-18-2007, 08:01 PM

In responce to built_to_race
The $185 was for installing & degreeing the camshaft and installing the timing chain cover .
The rest of the additional money was for the Camshaft Oil pan Oilpump Pickup and Front Cover.
Not only are they having problems with torquing because they have TWO people to do it and then ask the customer to recheck their work .
They must be having trouble telling the difference between a A Boring Bar and A Finish Hone . :roll:

Scot Where did the 13 cubic inches go :?: :?:

chevguy65

05-18-2007, 08:16 PM

Once again, scot steps up to the plate and strikes out big time, but if you ask him he will tell you he hit a home run...lmao

scot seems to suffer from delusions and believes his own lies.

again my opinions, but I think I am a pretty good judge of people.

slowman

05-18-2007, 09:59 PM

just my .02 but why would a guy send letters to remove all the bad post on every web site when biz is up because of them. :roll: i'm just a little confused on this.

etbird

05-19-2007, 04:10 AM

just my .02 but why would a guy send letters to remove all the bad post on every web site when biz is up because of them. :roll: i'm just a little confused on this. Good point, Let me see. You get bad feedback all over the net, and your business increases.. Yeah I'm buyin it.

etbird

05-19-2007, 04:14 AM

18820 views of this thread. He's going to have to get a bigger shop......Scot reminds me of that river in Egypt....denile!

Dshoebox

05-19-2007, 10:54 PM

Scott, you couldn't give me one of your engines after reading this. and as what your saying about Donn (fastbowtie). Ive meet the man and have had dealings with him many times and he knows what he's saying and doing[/list][/quote]

Dragginby

05-21-2007, 12:25 PM

I have read through this whole thread and was worried about my short block I bought from DynoFlo. I bought a 434 from Scott back in Jan 07. I just got done with the rest of the assembly a few weeks ago and dynoed it this past weekend @ Bob Wirth R&D in hayward Ca. I am very pleased with my motor. It made 602hp @ 6300rpm, and 559lbs @ 5000rpm. All the valvetrain and heads came from my 406. I am pleased with Scott's work. I picked the motor up from Scott when we picked up my freinds 582ci that made 959hp. We watched Scott dyno it. I am very happy with DynoFlo's work!

lotsof454sss

05-21-2007, 01:16 PM

Congratulations Dragginby
We are all glad you got what you paid for, but let me say this also....If this thread had not been going you may right now be singing a different song...This man has got to get his act together or he will bankrupt himself...Think about it for a moment...You could be one of the ones that was not satisfied just as easily as the LIST of other people that were not as lucky as you were this time.....If he can get his act together great for him but the damage he has created for himself is not going away, people will not forget, so damage control is his game now to survive.....oh yea, and before you got your engine, if you were aware of this thread, I bet you could not have rammed a bb up your ass....

bjuice

05-21-2007, 03:27 PM

LMAO

SORRY DUDE...i am not laughing at you but perry HIT the nail on the head so hard is was funny as hell.....its damage control no doubt...what you would have been saying at this point if your rods bolts had fallen out is left up to the imagination...LOL..

brian

lively

05-21-2007, 03:42 PM

16 rod bolts and rods stuck where the sun don't shine!!!!!!!!!-----THAT WOULD CHANGE THE WORDS ALOT!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

lotsof454sss

05-23-2007, 06:13 PM

I just happened to be in the back yard picking up all my wrenches and especially the torque wrench when I thought about this thread...Funny how the brain works and how easy it is to move this thread right back up to the top where all us back yard mechanics can read it again and again....Would not want this jewel to get lost now would we... :lol:

mikkey

05-24-2007, 05:14 PM

chevguy65

05-24-2007, 06:17 PM

Did the both of you receive spec sheet's on your motor's????Let us all know how long these motor's last????RCJ where were you when I was getting the run around?????and verbalized from only one person???and only now you start posting warning's??????and term's and conditions??When I called and complained, all that was said is that this is A open forum(correct me If I'am wrong)The guy messed up plain and simple and to inform other's is only the right thing to do!!!! I forgot It's all about advertising money, know matter who it is. :evil:

So you had a problem with dynoflo too?

If so, please remind us what happened, and what scot did or said to you?

So far it has been documented that this engine was a complete, assembled shortblock from dynoflow. Not one rod bolt was torqued past finger tight. It was supposed to be a 454 sbc, it wasn't. and the list goes on.

All scot has done for the builder and owner is blame them and call them as well of most of us on this board, liars and idiots and has made threats to get us fired from our jobs.

I laugh at the utter incompetence and denial this man hides behind, at least thats the opinion I have formed from facts and personal dealings.

lively

05-24-2007, 06:21 PM

MORE INFO--MORE INFO---JUST HAVE TO HAVE LOT'S MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!

chevguy65

05-29-2007, 04:39 PM

Just keeping it real.....

c'mon scot be a man for once in your pathetic midget life and do the right thing by these guys you have so apparently screwed over.

My opinions still have not changed and if you think we believe that this thread has magically increased your business, you are more dillusional than I thought.

Again, these are all my opinions and have been based upon the information placed before me.

ryoung99

06-05-2007, 06:34 AM

I wanted to say thank you to those of you who stepped to the plate and stated your experience with this builder.

There is no doubt in my mind that Dynoflo has built some good engines, but where there is smoke there is fire.

We were about ready to send them $10k for their 406 marine engine, we will look elsewhere now.

It would not surprise me if there problem is advertising and they have grown too big for the managment and quality control.

Thanks again,
Rick

lotsof454sss

06-05-2007, 10:43 AM

UHHHHHHH Add another 10 grand to the lost revenue column.....This column will be the largest number in the sheet if it actually had a lost revenue column....And I guess the people on the tour will not get told about it either.....Yal'll watch your step on the tour or you are liable to step in hog crap...Thanks for stopping by ryoung99....

chevguy65

06-10-2007, 05:13 AM

I see that scot has still refused to stand up and do what is right.

Now if he would take one of those guys that walks behind the other guys checking torque specs and had him actually make sure it was a 454 sbc instead of a 441 maybe it would have all been done correctly...oh wait I am fantasizing...

scot, make this right with Donn and George before you go bankrupt.

And no more lies about how god (i mean good) you are and how you double check everything, we know that is simply not true, if it were, every rod bolt would not have been finger tight and the engine would have been the correct bore and stroke.

excelerater

06-11-2007, 03:01 AM

you get what you pay for......
18 pages of bashing the lowest priced engine builder
is enough...you saved your money on the short end
and now your paying later-simple

chevguy65

06-11-2007, 03:51 AM

you get what you pay for......
18 pages of bashing the lowest priced engine builder
is enough...you saved your money on the short end
and now your paying later-simple

You have no idea excelerater.
How do you figure any money was saved, that short-block has cost double what it ever should have.

Go read the entire piece and then make an informed decision.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.
No bashing here, just facts about a so called builder that not only did not torque bolts correctly, but could not even get the bore and stroke right.

Thanks for stopping by though

RonOwensRacing

06-11-2007, 07:14 AM

19 now but i don't think you would say that if it were your engine i think you may be on here looking for help also the fact is he screwed up and dont want to stand up.

woodsman

06-11-2007, 12:27 PM

excelerater I have tried to read your post between the lines and I read it as you are saying that Dyno flow has done a bad job. Am I right in my assumption. Because I feel that we may have taken you the wrong way. Wesley

mytmouz

06-11-2007, 06:06 PM

I don't think so Woodsman, it reads to me that 18 pages was enough bashing, you bought from the lowest bidder, so you got what you paid for. At least that's the way it reads to me...

woodsman

06-11-2007, 06:57 PM

lotsof454sss

06-11-2007, 07:07 PM

I find it odd that someone would want to say 18 pages is enough and then they start page 19....Is that an omen or something... HUMMMMMMM....Must be cause here we are on number 19 and it will not stop here...I know I was insulted by Scott's mouth and his attitude so why should I forgive and forget....after all what happens in Vegas is suppose to stay in Vegas, so I guess he can stay in Vegas......and his damn opinion....and his cheap priced engines and his work quality...

lively

06-11-2007, 07:16 PM

oh yes --the price you pay FOR RIPPING PEOPLE OFF/ AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN**********PAGE AFTER PAGE AFTER PAGE^^^^ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

*EDIT* Way to many astricks made the page too wide
Thanks Tom

lively

06-11-2007, 07:42 PM

HEY--ONCE THIS FINGER GETS POUNDING IT HAS A TIME OF STOPPING--OLD AGE!!! :oops: :oops: :oops: :lol: :lol:

chevguy65

06-12-2007, 03:59 AM

tporter I guess you are right. But I do respect the part about you get what you pay for in parts and service. I just wished they would have put the proper torque on those bolts and none of this would have happen. I sure feel bad for the guy's with the messed up engine. Wesley

Wes,

They even missed on the bore.
The engine was supposed to have been a 454 sbc.
After they had it checked it measured 441 ci.

If scot were any type of stand up man this would be resolved by now.

Thats my opinion anyhow

woodsman

06-12-2007, 02:58 PM

chevguy65 I know what you are talking about. Its times like these that people find out what kind of engine builders we are giving our hard earned money to. But I believe that we are at the beginning of a turning point of our time with these matters. Because of the Internet and these Forums. So we can tell each other where not to go. Unfortunately there will be lots more money lost before we find them all and wish these lessons was not made from your money. Wesley

jmech

06-18-2007, 09:05 AM

I know all about trying to find a good price on everything for my project. Being from Canada very often the pricing is high here. Even with the Canadian doller as good as it is, the prices don't change mutch. I was cosidering ordering an engine from dyno flow. After reading everything here i have changed my mind. I will support my local machine shop and buy from him. It will cost a little more, but if there is a problem i know he will look after me. And i will feel good that i supported local buiseness.

lively

06-18-2007, 09:08 AM

JMECH---GREAT IDEA!!!!-----------------ANOTHER ONE GONE SCOTT 8) :oops: 8) :oops: 8)

lotsof454sss

06-18-2007, 02:55 PM

chevguy65

06-18-2007, 03:14 PM

I was cosidering ordering an engine from dyno flow. After reading everything here i have changed my mind. I will support my local machine shop and buy from him. It will cost a little more, but if there is a problem i know he will look after me. And i will feel good that i supported local buiseness.

jmech, I think you have made a very wise decision...congratulations 8)

I know he made a wise decision!!!

That is unless you want to buy from dynoflow, get the engine, pull it apart and build it all over again. That is what Scot says you need to do if you buy one of his engines.
Otherwise it is a POS that is incorrect bore and it will have a mystery bolt issue where he will let it out the door with incorrectly torqued bolts.

wvhippie

06-19-2007, 08:06 AM

I JUST SAW A NEW DYNA FLO AD FREE TOURQWRENCH WITH ANY NEW SHORT BLOCK. PLEASE!!!!! CALL SCOTT. 1-800 -ISCREWU

alscoupe

06-19-2007, 08:13 AM

"I don't care who you are, that's funny right there"

lively

06-19-2007, 08:52 AM

THAT IS GREAT!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol:

bigs1975

06-27-2007, 01:16 PM

My brother inlaw bought a 598 shortblock from Dynoflow 3years ago.That same motor has been in 3 cars and never has missed a beat.This year will be the first time it's been freshened up since new.Maybe he's a lucky one.I've been thinking about a short block from them for my self.Are they still having problems or have they straightened them out?

chevguy65

06-27-2007, 01:43 PM

I would look at someone else for your engine.

Scot has done absolutely nothing to rectify this matter and I doubt he ever will.

Your brother in law defiately got lucky.

Personally I would not trust scot to build a model engine for me.

It is up to you but if you use him and get screwed, just remember you were warned ahead of time.

woodsman

06-27-2007, 03:34 PM

Like Carl said I would not take a chance and also while they are doing a freshen up get them to check the bore x stroke to see if its what they said to was. That is if Dyno flow is not doing the work.

3dracing

06-28-2007, 06:33 AM

That just shows even a blind hog can find an acorn every now and then.

Steve

rpmengine

06-29-2007, 08:16 PM

I would guess that the cap screws were only torque to spec once instead of the four times required to acheive proper stretch as listed by Eagle in all of their paper work.

Thunder71

07-01-2007, 04:26 AM

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chevguy65

07-01-2007, 04:30 AM

I would guess that the cap screws were only torque to spec once instead of the four times required to acheive proper stretch as listed by Eagle in all of their paper work.

that's what i'm thinking,only a dumb a$$ would'nt check the torque before installing the pan.....sure would of saved some $$$$$$$$$$ but i guess you learned from this experiance 8) live & learn

LOL thunder.

You have no idea...but you are entitled to your opinion.
Do you work for scot?

Thunder71

07-01-2007, 04:45 AM

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chevguy65

07-01-2007, 05:05 AM

Well, I see about 1000 people that disser with your opinion.

If I were to double check everyone's work that had told me it is done right, that is all I would do.

The "mechanic" you refer to is a complete hot rod builder and this was the 1st engine he bought without building it himself.
He does a lot more than sit on an engine for 18 months.

Let me ask you a question.
If you had a home built, or bought a new car from a dealership, are you going to go and double check all of their work?
Now, if you say yes, I will flat out call you a liar.

When I bought my last engine, I did not pull it apart to see if it was done correctly and waste my and my builders time. I trusted that what he did was correct.

I am just stating that the buyer should not have to take on that responsibility, tes your correct that if he had it would have saved some money because the engine would have gone right back to scot. Not only were the rod bolts not torqued correctly, but it was not even the correct bore & stroke.

Now, if you found that your engine (supposedly a 454 sbc) was in fact a 521 or 434, are you going to finish the bore on it yourself, to save money, or send it back and expect a full refund, because if he can't get that right what can he do right.

Didn't mean to offend if I did, just pointing out that your logic seems flawed in my opinion.

chevguy65

07-01-2007, 05:07 AM

PS...the "mechanic" you refer to is very good at what he does, so please stop with the personal attacks on him.

Thanks

lively

07-01-2007, 05:24 AM

YOU KNOW I AM A CONTRACTOR-AND I LOOK AT MY SUBS WORK AND VISUALLY DOUBLE CHECK THINGS BUT IF I HAD TO CHECK EVERYTHING IN DETAIL I WOULD GO BROKE[YOUR HIRING THEM TO DO IT RIGHT]-IF IT FAILS THEY DO BACK IT UP OR FACE THE TROUBLE WITH OTHER CONTRACTORS LATER ON :oops: :oops: --SAME WITH BUILDING CARS AND ENGINES[DO IT RIGHT OR DON'T DO IT!!!]--IF YOU THINK THAT A PROFESSIONAL COMPANY LIKE DYNOFLO/ BOWERS/ OR ALOT OF OTHERS HAVE A RIGHT TO BUILD AND SELL JUNK AND NOT GET CAUGHT AND PUNISHED BY OTHER RACERS THEN YOU MUST LIVE IN A SHELL PULLED DOWN TIGHT!!!---NOW I SAID IT AND FEEL A WHOLE LOT BETTER 8) 8)-LIVELY IN ILLINOIS[P.S.-I HAVE DONE THIS 36 YEARS AND STILL HATE JUNK WORKMANSHIP]

etbird

07-01-2007, 12:15 PM

Well shoot if I have to check everyboby's work I might as well do it myself. But since I don't have time to do everthing I would hire a pro. If the pro doesn't do it right, it is on his shoulders, and he has a responsibilty to me to make it right.

Thunder71

07-01-2007, 01:58 PM

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chevguy65

07-01-2007, 02:17 PM

I do not disagree on some things, but if he built the shortblock, from what your saying he (the mechanic) should have torn it down and re-assembled it himself, because if he found the rod bolts loose he sure as hell would have. At that point what is the point of buying an assembled shortblock???? And where is the $$$ savings?

And what about it being the wrong bore size, do you check that too?

It sounds to me as if you spend way to much time going over work that should be correct in the 1st place. So, where is the money savings on that?

My labor is also worth something.

Just doesn't make sense to me.

SVRE

07-01-2007, 02:54 PM

no i don't but i know for a fact this could have been a nice engine if only the "mechanic" would of used his head just for a second...

if he was to finish building this motor & was a GOOD "mechanic" he would have a torque wrench & feeler gauge in his hand & about 5 minutes would have checked the torgue & the rod side clearance's & the crank clearance's BUT he was a DUMB BO & cost the owner lots of $$$$$$$$$....

yes it my opinion........the shortblock sit for 18 months......how hard is it to double check things.......jack leg i say.......it never had a chance with the "mechanic" doing it his way...... :lol:

Bottom line is, the man PAID for an assembled shortblock...HE SHOULDNT HAVE TO!

If you have your oil changed at the service station and you drive off and the motor locks up becouse they forgot to put oil back into it are you going to say, "Ol' well.....its not a big deal guys, I should have double checked you." Hell no, you would want someone to fix the engine. Same as here. Man mad a mistake, maybe it was his only mistake ever, but it doesnt matter. TRY to make it right.

I think passing the buck is worse than screwing up in the first place.

Thunder71

07-01-2007, 04:32 PM

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RonOwensRacing

07-01-2007, 07:56 PM

I have used the same engine builder for 25 years now and not one time have i ever checked his work .
Now one time about 3 years ago he called me and told me to double check the timing chain bolts and i did and they were fine but he thought of it before i got it put in the car but why pay some one if you have to go over everything they do .
If you are going to do that then just have the machine work done and put it together yourself and save the money whats the point of paying them to put it together if you have to redo it .
Just my 2 cents worth them bolts didn't come loose because it sat on a engine stand they just wasn't torqued the first time .

Thunder71

07-02-2007, 02:20 AM

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chevguy65

07-02-2007, 04:34 AM

Oh the "mechanic" got FIRED.......wonder why>>>>>>>>>http://gamefowl.com/images/smilies/bs-meter.gif

Where do you get your info Thunder?

You are so off base it's funny.

Now go get with your buddy scot and tell him his tactics do not work and to be a man and fix this problem for "the mechanic".

Donn is a stand up guy and you bashing him is not going to earn you any points here.

Bottom line is scot screwed up and that is it PERIOD end of story!!!!.

You have made it quite clear that you check what a so called professional has done and you are superior because of that.
You seem to have a lot more time on your hands than the rest of us to be able to check what is SUPPOSED to be done in the 1st place.

Now, unless you have some type of facts that pertain to this thread, I suggest you please stop bashing Donn.

Thanks

jbsjunk

07-02-2007, 10:23 AM

Hey Chev, don't bash the kid, he's Dynablows new engine guru. And he uses a 50 year old beam torque wrench.

I do alot of suspension mods on off-roaders. Should I slack and let the customer check the job I was supposed to do correctly the first time? No. I do the job right the first time. That means the customer is happy, and we get repeat business from that along with referrals.

Don't matter what business you're in, if you screw up, you'll pay for it one way or the other.

RonOwensRacing

07-02-2007, 11:43 AM

Well thunder must have a lot of time and a lot of money to throw away if he goes over everything he pays someone to do for him i wish we all had customers like him .
If the people that i have do work for me and i have to check there work then i don't need them.

Thunder71

07-02-2007, 12:57 PM

newby here & jumped into something i should have just read & keep quiet, i'm listening now :wink:

lotsof454sss

07-02-2007, 01:53 PM

I think this last page has added alot of value to just how true Tom's method of "Name Tagging" such as Dyno operator, Racing Junkie and Back Yard Mechanic is actually more precise than we first gave it credit for...Please do not misunderstand, but everyone has a starting catagory and then they proceed from the first catagory and work their way up to Master Mechanic and I did not type engine builder being paid for work either....If you get paid for work I don't care if it is digging a damn ditch you got paid, so do your JOB>>>Period.....................

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alscoupe

07-02-2007, 02:18 PM

Lotsa454sss;

AMEN Brother!

AL

zipper06

07-02-2007, 05:52 PM

lively

07-02-2007, 06:04 PM

BOY -THIS WAS STARTING TO GET HOT AND HEAVY THUNDER71--I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO BRING DOWN SOME LIGHTNING TO STOP THE THUNDER!!!!!---WELCOME TO THE SITE BUT CAREFULLY APPROACH THE FUNNY FARM ON HERE[ :twisted: WE CAN AND DO BITE TO DEFEND OUR FELLOW RACERS :twisted: ]----LIVELY---BY THE WAY THUNDER , WHERE ARE YOU FROM? 8)

bjuice

07-02-2007, 07:04 PM

lmao 8) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

lotsof454sss

07-02-2007, 07:16 PM

Nah zipper I ain't given him anything...Maybe it was you in the sauce if you saw pigs flying..LMFAO..Sorry Zip I could not let that one pass....You know your my bud so I could get by with that one...bjuice is LHAO too...Maybe it is wacky backy or as I used to call them a FATTIE in another life...."DYNOBLO" it won't go....Oh yea, glad to have you on there Thunder, enjoy yourself and meet the gang

chevguy65

07-03-2007, 05:05 AM

newby here & jumped into something i should have just read & keep quiet, i'm listening now :wink:

Thanks Thunder71.....now sit back and enjoy the site!

I am sure you will add value to the group and learn a few things along the way.

I have learned a lot from the guys here, there are so many top notch folks it's hard not to.

Thanks for understanding. It takes a man with character to admit a mistake.

wvhippie

07-03-2007, 02:20 PM

Did sombody say something about a fatty!!! :D HEY PIG YOURE SUPPOSE TO SHARE!

lookingaround

07-07-2007, 07:21 AM

i guess they havent done anything to make this right have they fastbowtie

lookingaround

07-07-2007, 07:23 AM

Did sombody say something about a fatty!!! :D
yeah my wife did when she said hey fatty get your own remote. :shock:

ratfink1969

07-11-2007, 06:34 PM

I just read all 22 pages including all the links and now that my eyes are burning I wanted to take the time to thank everybody that gave productive input pro/con. This thread was one thing but the links really sold me or unsold me on Dyno-flow. I will pay the local shop extra to have it done.
I really got screwed on a car I bought off of ebay from a private party and really think that this post may have helped save me those same headaches. Thank GOD sights like this have Scammer watch lists.
Ryan

cujo

07-13-2007, 09:30 AM

I just felt the sting that some of you guys have felt. I bought a 540 from a guy who knows a friend of mine ,the friend said the guy takes great care of his motors. I put it in my dragster started it up and my carb put to much alky in it i changed the oil sent the carb to rupert got it back worked great. Took the car to the track started it and heared somthing ,shut it off and took it home. Pulled the intake off found 2 bad lifters that didn't match the others and a lifter boar damanged,took the heads off and found that the boars were worn out (have to boar to larger size) crank has a crack in it, an at some piont while the guy raced it a screw got into two cylinders and beat the pistons and head up, rod bushing all no good ,intake valves all bad. And he said you did put alot of alky through it . Machine shop says the guy is full of it . GUY SAYS THERE ARE ONLY 25 PASSES ON THE MOTOR ,oh yea was about to spin three bearrings. Just found out they had the wrong head gaskets pistons were hittig the heads.

bjuice

07-13-2007, 12:50 PM

this post has been moved...

thanks Brian ' beetlejuice"

cujo

07-13-2007, 01:47 PM

The guy i got this motor from says today his friend who's car it was in put it together last (that guy passed away last year so i can't talk to him). My other friend had to hear it from the machine shop guy that i got screwed. I told the machine shop guy to itemize the damage and what caused it (I THINK WERE HEADED TO COURT THE GUY TOLD ME THE MOTOR WAS MOTOR WAS IN GREAT SHAPE)! I think the machine shop guy felt bad for me because he asked me if i was getting my money back or have him pay for getting it fixed.

chevguy65

07-13-2007, 04:16 PM

Not wanting to step on any toes...let's keep this thread about dynaslow.

Thanks for understanding.

chevguy65

07-13-2007, 10:53 PM

It seems I hurt some feelings by asking NICELY to keep this thread about what it is and not get off on another topic.

I apologize to everyone that feels I did them wrong.

For those that feel I was out of line, please have the respect to pm me and we can discuss it.
Do not run to someone else and complain until I have had an opportunity to explain.

That is the manly thing to do.

Thunder71

07-14-2007, 05:30 AM

http://dyno-flo.com/c-d-m-o-s-s.html#anchor2

lookingaround

07-14-2007, 01:54 PM

http://dyno-flo.com/c-d-m-o-s-s.html#anchor2
i think it sucks. JMO

jenavet

07-16-2007, 04:54 PM

i wrote early in this post that i knew a guy who bought a complete motor from dynoflo last season...i think it was a 565...after 3-4 passes i saw it being towed back to the pits...he told me something went wrong and dyno flo told him to ship it back and they were going to fix it...well i saw him this saturday at the track for the first time this season and i asked him what happened on the deal....

he stated after 3 passes the 3 bolts that hold the timing gear sheared off the camshaft.he spoke to scott at dynoflow and scott agreed to have it shipped back and repaired.....dyno flow allegedly repaired the motor and shipped it back to my freind...scott stated that they were using a new experimental form of loctite and it was failing and had failed in several other motors.

my freind puts the motor back in and makes a few passes and she runs like crap.he pulled the motor and brought it to a local shop.the local shop found the pistons were pretty banged up and she had 4 bent valves and all the valve guides were wiped.....so what dynoflow did is repaired the cam/timing chain problem but didnt inspect or repair any of the resulting damage....

my freind then decided it would be best to disassemble the whole motor and check everything...basically what they found was that every item that dyno flow said was in the motor was...it had all the good parts that were supposed to be in her...but all the clearances were just wack...they said what they found was if someone purchased all the good parts and then just slapped it together with no regards for clearances,tolerances etc...

my freind stated that dynoflow puts the motor together with top notch parts,the price is very good but the assembly and machine work[if any is done at all] is horrendous.after all was said and done,my freind said with all the money he had invested in the motor buying it and then having someone else fix all the problems,he could have bought an excellent piece from like reher-morrison.

you would think with this poor quality workmanship that this would have caught up to them by now...hopefully spreading the word in this manner it will soon.

excelerater

07-17-2007, 03:57 AM

experimental Loctite :lol:

jmech

07-18-2007, 08:15 AM

A friend has just installed a 598 from dyno flo for one of his costomers. I talked to him after the motor was in. He said if he had known all this he would have talked to his costomer first. Now that the motor is in he is going to run it. He didn't check anything, just bolted it in. He is also giving it a 300 shot right off the hop. The first race wont be till august. I'll be watching that one closely.

lotsof454sss

07-19-2007, 09:14 AM

FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!!! Good luck to your bud, and if you are there perhaps you would like a grandstand seat about launch time....

studio57

07-24-2007, 11:05 AM

i found this thing when i google this companys name, i was thinking of buying engine from them.... hmmmm...... not so shure... allready have on word products engine and been very happy with it so i think ill stick with that label .... to that company this thing has been a big loss , when they think time back it would be lot easyer and money saving thing to just come in solution and make somekind of compromice with the client but now i dont think it dont have any meaning.

jmech

07-30-2007, 12:14 PM

Well they tested the car and i didn't know about it so i missed it. I talked with my bud that installed the engine. It makes great power, so mutch that they didn't spray it. They could not get traction without the spray so they played it safe. On the third or forth pass it blew the intake gasket out the back and leaked oil all over, so that was it for testing. Next race is aug 18, 19. I'll be there for that one.

jmech

08-20-2007, 09:44 AM

Well the car raced two day's without a problem. It ran great the whole weekend. The owner was doing 8000 rpm burn outs. It all stayed together and ran great. I was working the burnout box. Standing 4 feet awyay from the car had me a little concerned. I thaught i may have to dodge a few connecting rods. LOL. Oh well, all is good and he's very happy with the engine.

bjuice

08-21-2007, 06:25 AM

well all that is TRULY great to hear for the customers sake....
but as they say a blind squirel will find a nut every now and then..

i'm not so sure a 8k burnout is the best idea for any motor...somone give that man a 3 step with directions for Christmas ...lol :D

supercomp729l

08-29-2007, 10:29 AM

111111111111111

Tod74

09-14-2007, 09:38 AM

It's a conspiracy perpetrated by the man to keep a brother down.

LMFAO!!

Tod74

09-14-2007, 09:48 AM

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s319/fastbowtie1/HPIM0769.jpg

Must have been a hell of a motor before it blew up.....he pulled all four wheels off the ground.

Thunder71

09-26-2007, 12:49 PM

:lol: :lol: click herehttp://dyno-flo.com/c-d-m-o-s-s.html#anchor2

quality at it's best :lol: :lol:

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff49/dynoflo07/scotsrun.jpg

lookingaround

10-09-2007, 02:20 PM

have they done anything for fastbowtie yet? other then screw him

nightowl357

10-13-2007, 09:31 PM

I have spent time building and dynoing what i built.This is a serious no brainer my friend the bolt was left loose and i guess no one wants to own up to it huh?

chevguy65

10-14-2007, 11:31 AM

I have spent time building and dynoing what i built.This is a serious no brainer my friend the bolt was left loose and i guess no one wants to own up to it huh?

Scot has had more than enough chances to own up to his screw up and make things right...lol

My opinion of Scot has not changed.

lookingaround

11-15-2007, 10:13 AM

btt :D

chevy2much

07-30-2008, 06:47 PM

I sent Dyno Flo an email asking for info on a 632 and I found this thread,,,THANKS A MILLION,,,well thanks $16,000...LOL :D

hammertime

07-31-2008, 02:19 AM

I sent Dyno Flo an email asking for info on a 632 and I found this thread,,,THANKS A MILLION,,,well thanks $16,000...LOL :D

www.nyesautomotive.net

a lot better parts/service and awesome prices !!! and real hp #'s

chevy2much

07-31-2008, 09:44 AM

I called them 2 days ago and was told everyone was on lunch so then I sent an email asking for info and I have not got a response yet..............I will be getting a lump around Feb. I'm thinking about getting a World Parts Limited Edition 632, I like the 2year warranty!

a lot better parts/service and awesome prices !!! and real hp #'s[/quote]

hammertime

07-31-2008, 10:21 AM

mikeshemi

08-01-2008, 08:48 PM

:oops: had a (Pro?) build me a nhra 396-375hp engine for my Chevelle. After 9 runs it broke on the starting line at dragway 42. I took it apart against his wishes to see what went wrong. One of the inner main bearing bolts fell out and wedged between the crank and block at 5500 rpms. Ouch. It broke the block, ruined the rod and bent the crank. I called him and he told me ( calm voice) that all big block Chevys had that problem and he wasn't the blame. He never once offered to make good on his mistake of not torqueing the main bearing bolt. go figure--- lesson learned-- never let someone work on your motor that doesn't have a reputation of standing behind their work. Shit happens in a race environment but you don't need rookie mistakes compounding the problem. I always wondered what he would have told me happened if i let him take it apart. Don't know-- that was 40 years ago and i still haven't talked to him to find out.