{"id":90230,"date":"2023-03-21T15:42:28","date_gmt":"2023-03-21T22:42:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/?p=90230"},"modified":"2023-03-21T15:42:28","modified_gmt":"2023-03-21T22:42:28","slug":"formula-one-nascar-and-the-penalty-box","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/formula-one-nascar-and-the-penalty-box\/","title":{"rendered":"Formula One, NASCAR and the Penalty Box"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_90232\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-90232\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"90232\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/formula-one-nascar-and-the-penalty-box\/alonso-on-the-podium-100th-time-aston-martin-image-min\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Alonso-on-the-podium-100th-time-Aston-Martin-image-min-e1679438445456.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"640,334\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Alonso on the podium 100th time &amp;#8211; Aston Martin image-min\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Fernando Alonso, driving for Aston Martin, earned his 100th podium in Saudi Arabia &amp;#8211; Aston Martin photo&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Alonso-on-the-podium-100th-time-Aston-Martin-image-min-e1679438445456-300x157.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Alonso-on-the-podium-100th-time-Aston-Martin-image-min-1024x585.jpg\" class=\"wp-image-90232 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Alonso-on-the-podium-100th-time-Aston-Martin-image-min.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"686\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-90232\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fernando Alonso, driving for Aston Martin, earned his 100th podium in Saudi Arabia &#8211; Aston Martin photo<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"p1\">It\u2019s time to talk about penalties and race control in motorsports. It\u2019s a never-ending issue: racers railing against arbitrary sanctions; too many rules; always-changing enforcement of said rules and, of course, the quest for the unfair advantage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">The late, great Tyler Alexander who, together with Teddy Mayer ran McLaren Racing after the death of Bruce McLaren, always referred to Formula One as a \u201cbunch of overbred Cocker Spaniels.\u201d The series and its race control proved the American right this past weekend during the second race of the year at Saudi Arabia. <span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">The night race had evergreen Fernando Alonso, the elder statesman of F1 on the front row in the second position. He didn\u2019t box properly for the start and was a smidge too far to the left of his grid slot, according to those in the control tower. Alonso was handed a five-second penalty, which he served on his first and only pit stop with his Aston Martin team. They waited a full five seconds to service the car (in way less than five seconds) and sent him on his way. This occurred during the safety car for teammate Lance Stroll\u2019s retirement which, in this writer\u2019s (and many others\u2019) opinion really didn\u2019t need a real safety car; a virtual safety car would have sufficed to remove Stroll&#8217;s stopped machine that was already off the track.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">When Alonso called to the pits, the rear jack was touching the car, ready to lift it once the five-second penalty had been served. The FIA, who oversee all racing on this orb and is, specifically F1\u2019s governing body, believed that the penalty had not been served through this touch. This although a combination of race control and the recently added ROC in Geneva &#8211; Remote Operations Center &#8211; thought the penalty had been served and Alonso was back in the game.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"90231\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/formula-one-nascar-and-the-penalty-box\/f1-logo-min\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/F1-logo-min.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1000,666\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"F1 logo-min\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/F1-logo-min-300x200.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/F1-logo-min.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-90231 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/F1-logo-min-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/F1-logo-min-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/F1-logo-min-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/F1-logo-min.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Or so he thought, having brought the car third behind pole man and race winner Sergio Perez, together with second-placed Max Verstappen, both of Red Bull. It was the 100th podium for Alonso, who achieved his first podium result in his 18th race, the 2003 Malaysian Grand Prix. During the race\u2019s final, 50th lap, F1&#8217;s race stewards received a report from race control, stating that ROC reported to race control the lack of penalty served, and on-site race stewards were asked to investigate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">After the trio enjoyed the fruits of their labors and saluted their teams and the crowd, it was announced that George Russell of Mercedes AMG, who was fourth at the checkered flags, would be awarded third place because the rule that \u201cno part of the car could be touched\u201d while a driver was serving a penalty, had been breached. The rear jack touched the car; Russell got the position, but not the champagne or the cheers of the crowd.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Three and a half hours later, the added 10-second penalty given Alonso was removed and yes, he did finish third for his 100th podium. Alonso insisted he would have been able to make up those 10 seconds had the new penalty been meted during the race, but no, the FIA waited until well after the contest to penalize the Spaniard. It didn\u2019t look good on Sunday and retained a sour taste on Monday, even though the sanctioning body relented and realized they\u2019d not done the right thing.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Apparently it was another team that brought this to the fore, something that regularly happens in the world of \u201coverbred Cocker Spaniel\u201d racers. It comes after F1 and the FIA have been trying, albeit unsuccessfully, to regain the trust of fans and teams after the season finale fiasco in 2021 that allowed Max Verstappen to gain position over Lewis Hamilton and take his first Formula One World Championship.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">At Saudi Arabia, the largest problem was the lack of communication between Alonso\u2019s team, Russell\u2019s team and the FIA. It took more than three hours before Russell was removed from his podium result and Alonso reinstated. Nobody knew about this until bags were packed and drivers and teams were preparing to leave the Middle East.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">It must be noted that jacks touching the cars have been allowed in the past in situations of this type and that there has been no change in the regulations concerning that. By the time the decision was reversed, Alonso had left the track and millions of fans were making their own decisions on this debacle. Nobody was happy. Not even George Russell! \u201cFernando deserved to be on the podium today and I was pleased with P4,\u201d he said. Alonso was \u201chappy in the end with the result tonight and our second podium. We showed that we can be the second fastest team and we had good pace throughout. It was my mistake at the start with the position on the grid,\u201d he noted, but mentioned that he pushed hard to make up that time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">And then there\u2019s NASCAR which, at this point is on the verge of being a spec series, much like INDYCAR. Sure a little this and that is permitted by the teams, but the series is extremely quick to mete out penalties no matter the infraction. Last week it gave a gut punch to one of its most successful teams, Hendrick Motorsports, stating their spec louvers had been tampered with. NASCAR then threw points and money penalties to the team, which said it would appeal.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"90233\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/formula-one-nascar-and-the-penalty-box\/cup-series-logo-min\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Cup-Series-logo-min.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1200,580\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Cup Series logo-min\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Cup-Series-logo-min-300x145.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Cup-Series-logo-min-1024x495.jpg\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-90233 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Cup-Series-logo-min-300x145.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"145\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Cup-Series-logo-min-300x145.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Cup-Series-logo-min-1024x495.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Cup-Series-logo-min-768x371.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Cup-Series-logo-min.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">With 2022 being the first year of a new car spec for the NASCAR Cup Series and even with plenty of pre-season testing by teams and their manufacturer partners, there were issues, particularly with cooling. NASCAR permitted cooling ducts and there were tests after the close of the 2022 campaign to vet them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">As Chad Knaus, Hendrick Motorsports\u2019 vice president of competition explained, \u201cWhen we started to get parts at the beginning of the 2023 season, we didn\u2019t have the parts that we thought we were going to have.\u201d The teams, manufacturers and NASCAR had several discussions about whether they could \u201cclean up the parts or not clean up the parts,\u201d Knaus revealed.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">\u201cAnd it\u2019s changed, quite honestly, every couple of weeks,\u201d he said. \u201cSo it\u2019s been challenging for us to navigate and we\u2019re just going to have to see what happens when we get through the appeal,\u201d one that Hendrick Motorsports decided to make once the penalties were announced after the Phoenix race two weekends ago.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Hendrick Motorsports stated, before last weekend\u2019s Atlanta Motor Speedway race (won by Joey Logano for Team Penske), that NASCAR had identified the louvers on all four Hendrick cars: No. 5, No. 9, No. 24 and No. 48 Chevrolet-powered Cup cars) during what it said was a voluntary inspection prior to on-track activity. NASCAR took possession of all the cars\u2019 louvers and elected to issue penalties.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">The four-car team\u2019s appeal states these facts: \u201dLouvers provided to teams through NASCAR\u2019s mandated single-source supplier do not match the design submitted by the manufacturer and approved by NASCAR; documented inconsistent and unclear communication by the sanctioning body specifically related to louvers; and recent comparable penalties issued by NASCAR have been related to issues discovered during a post-race inspection,\u201d the team stated.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">The penalties &#8211; highest in NASCAR history &#8211; were given to Hendrick Motorsports under the aegis of \u201cunapproved modification of a single source vendor supplied part.\u201d Every crew chief on the team has been fined $100,000 and suspended for four races (now three). Both the team and each of its four drivers have been assessed with the loss of 100 points and 10 NASCAR playoff points.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">That meant a shuffling of squads in Atlanta for the dominant Chevrolet team, which recorded a best result of 14th with Alex Bowman. Substitute crew chiefs were Kevin Meendering for the No. 5 of 2021 champion Kyle Larson, Tom Gray for Josh Berry in the No. 9, substituting for the injured Chase Elliott, Brain Campe (who served as lead engineer for Josef Newgarden in INDYCAR when the Tennessean won his first title) on the No. 24 of William Byron and Greg Ives on Bowman\u2019s No. 48.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">The problem with NASCAR and louvers is this: if the team notified the sanction that there were changes to the louvers from those they used in testing, nothing should have happened to them. If they didn\u2019t, the onus was still on NASCAR\u2019s Elton Sawyer to rule with an even hand. Did he check other team\u2019s louvers to discern if they\u2019d changed them too? Or did they just pick on one of the most successful teams in the paddock? It should be noted that NASCAR gave the same penalties to the No. 31 of Kaulig Racing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Whatever the case, in both NASCAR and F1, the technical infractions<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>and subsequent<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">punishments for same were over the top these past couple of weekends. This isn\u2019t unusual for F1 or for Cup. But it\u2019s got to change. People don\u2019t tune in &#8211; or sit in stands &#8211; to see spec cars parading about a track with all the same stuff attached. NASCAR, in fact made a point of having their new cars resemble the street vehicles for which they are named; they need to be consistent in their tech inspections of these same cars, whether on Friday before practice begins or after a race, when certain cars are taken to NASCARs Charlotte facility for tear-downs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">It\u2019s a shame the results are predicated on this kind of thing. F1 made their errors right; let\u2019s hope NASCAR does the same.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>It\u2019s time to talk about penalties and race control in motorsports.<\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":65,"featured_media":90232,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[17,3470,5029],"tags":[9615,3789,6179,3752,9616,435,9617,127,4437,9393,7310],"class_list":["post-90230","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-guest-column","category-news","category-racing","tag-aston-martin-aramco-cognizant-formula-one","tag-atlanta-motor-speedway","tag-fernando-alonso","tag-formula-one","tag-george-russell","tag-hendrick-motorsports","tag-mercedes-amg-formula-one-team","tag-nascar","tag-nascar-cup-series","tag-phoenix-raceway","tag-saudi-arabia"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Alonso-on-the-podium-100th-time-Aston-Martin-image-min-e1679438445456.jpg","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p42YSK-ntk","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/90230","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/65"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=90230"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/90230\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":90237,"href":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/90230\/revisions\/90237"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/90232"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=90230"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=90230"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.racingjunk.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=90230"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}