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Old 01-02-2009, 06:01 PM
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These results reflect the record holders, qualifiers, and final round contestants at each of the
Street Car Shootout Series events held each Tuesday at Gateway International Raceway in Madison, Illinois.

All vehicles compete utilizing Department of Transportation (D.O.T.) approved tires. All other modifications are permitted. Tuesday SCSS Track Records can be set during official qualifying or championship rounds. The four quickest qualifiers meet in no-handicap eliminations with the championship final round held at 9:45 PM. Each of the Top 16 qualifiers receives a "Fastest Street Car Qualifier" decal. The two quickest Sport Tuner drivers, (open to all passenger cars except Rear-Wheel-Drive vehicles with engines of eight cylinders or more), also meet in a no-handicap championship round for trophies presented by St. Louis Street Racers.com and the two quickest Super Truck drivers, (open to all trucks and utility vehicles), meet in a no-handicap championship round for trophies presented by Gateway Raceway.com. All finalists in all categories also receive free digital images from the event courtesy of Bret Kepner Photos.com and one free entry to a future SCSS event.


GATEWAY INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY, MADISON, ILLINOIS

2008 STREET CAR SHOOTOUT SERIES TRACK RECORDS

Class Name Hometown ST Vehicle Engine ET MPH Date
RWD Mark Woodruff, Arnold, MO 69 Nova 706 Chevy 8.255 07/01/2008
RWD Mark Woodruff, Arnold, MO 69 Nova 706 Chevy 178.71 07/01/2008

TRK Kevin Autenrieth, Bethalto, IL 91 S-10 434 Chevy 9.065 07/01/2008
TRK Larry Richards, Hillsboro, MO 52 3100 427 Chevy 149.07 9/4/2007

4CYL Jon Huber, St. Louis, MO 79 Mustang 178 Ford 9.147 4/15/2008
4CYL Jon Huber, St. Louis, MO 79 Mustang 178 Ford 152.16 10/16/2007

DSL Chris Calkins, Union, MO 70 C-10 403 Chevy 9.875 9/25/2007
DSL Chris Calkins, Union, MO 70 C-10 403 Chevy 139.41 9/25/2007

RTY Eric Cheatham, Belleville, IL 93 RX-7 79 Mazda 10.048 9/26/2006
RTY Eric Cheatham, Belleville, IL 93 RX-7 79 Mazda 137.95 9/26/2006

AWD Adnan Omerovic, St. Louis, MO 95 Talon 122 Eagle 10.234 9/11/2007
AWD Adnan Omerovic, St. Louis, MO 95 Talon 122 Eagle 141.50 7/22/2008

6CYL David Day, Bunker Hill, IL 87 Regal 249 Buick 10.690 8/26/2008
6CYL Troy Doolady, Columbia, MO 87 Regal 231 Buick 131.10 8/19/2008

FWD Adam Corbitt, St. Charles, MO 85 Golf 123 Volks 10.989 05/06/2008
FWD Adam Corbitt, St. Charles, MO 85 Golf 123 Volks 134.87 05/06/2008




SEPTEMBER 16th, 2008 STREET CAR SHOOTOUT SERIES QUALIFIERS
Pos Name Hometown ST Vehicle Engine ET MPH Date

EVENT 20 09/16/2008

1 Tim Mallicoat Collinsville IL 68 Camaro 565 Chevy 8.573 158.22
2 Tim Roberts St. Charles MO 71 Cutlass 540 Chevy 8.859 149.55
3 Travis Smalley O'Fallon MO 03 Mustang 281 Ford 9.849 136.70
4 Tim Kirkpatrick Troy MO 88 Mustang 393 Ford 9.874 136.46
5 Mike McCombs Jacksonville IL 87 Mustang 418 Ford 10.038 137.72
6 Charles Bewen Wildwood MO 67 Firebird 383 Pont 10.099 135.16
7 Hal Marshall Collinsville IL 86 S-10 383 Chevy 10.133 130.75
8 Jeremy Heizer Crystal City MO 91 Firebird 402 Pont 10.258 132.46
9 Curtis Paulfrey Brighton IL 68 Camaro 502 Chevy 10.331 128.95
10 Raymond Arthur Edwardsville IL 93 S-10 355 Chevy 10.677 125.76
11 Chad Barton Hillsboro MO 01 Corvette 346 Chevy 10.690 130.04
12 Scott Boning Union MO 93 Mustang 347 Ford 10.767 126.21
13 Mike Mester Valley Park MO 00 Firebird 402 Pont 10.894 124.55
14 Nathan Grant Edwardsville IL 02 Camaro 346 Chevy 10.993 125.46
15 Andrew Connors Festus MO 00 Camaro 346 Chevy 11.133 122.96
16 Andy Park Sparta IL 69 Chevelle 462 Chevy 11.147 119.72


Just wondering robsbird how fast are you?
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by qtrmile2
I like heads up racing and did it back in the day, so to speak. But they came up with bracket racing so everybody could have a chance to win. I really don't see a track going back to that kind of racing. Don't get me wrong I think drag racers are wanting to do something different. I stopped running Pro and Super pro because I got bored with it. Plus the delay boxes. Well that's another story for sure. I say go to a pro tree for every class and come up with a way to run heads up.
It'll be tough to keep it fair though.
:arrow: all sports have rules or guidelines, heads up raceing will also have rules to keep competition competetive. you would never get tired of this.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by robsbird
Originally Posted by suicidebomb
Originally Posted by denn468
Originally Posted by robsbird
:idea: its time for all you guys to come up with heas up classes no breakout for the classes just like the pros. all engine no adders. weight to c.i. simple 2800 to 3000. lbs 340 to 600 ci all tube chass and no tube chassis. thats the basic outline. what do you think. car owners and track owners :?: :?: :idea:
how would you police something like that? what local track would tear motor down to check cubic in ? sounds good but not to realistic
It's realistic, they could P&G the motors for displacement, like the dirt track guys do. I would like to see some lower minimum weights though. How about 1800-3800, let some dragster, and altered guys in on the fun.
:!: you would be in catigory #1 dragsters and roadsters. :idea:
No, I was planning on #3, modified stock chassis. Ford pickup with a frame hitch.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by slowmotion
These results reflect the record holders, qualifiers, and final round contestants at each of the
Street Car Shootout Series events held each Tuesday at Gateway International Raceway in Madison, Illinois.

All vehicles compete utilizing Department of Transportation (D.O.T.) approved tires. All other modifications are permitted. Tuesday SCSS Track Records can be set during official qualifying or championship rounds. The four quickest qualifiers meet in no-handicap eliminations with the championship final round held at 9:45 PM. Each of the Top 16 qualifiers receives a "Fastest Street Car Qualifier" decal. The two quickest Sport Tuner drivers, (open to all passenger cars except Rear-Wheel-Drive vehicles with engines of eight cylinders or more), also meet in a no-handicap championship round for trophies presented by St. Louis Street Racers.com and the two quickest Super Truck drivers, (open to all trucks and utility vehicles), meet in a no-handicap championship round for trophies presented by Gateway Raceway.com. All finalists in all categories also receive free digital images from the event courtesy of Bret Kepner Photos.com and one free entry to a future SCSS event.


GATEWAY INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY, MADISON, ILLINOIS

2008 STREET CAR SHOOTOUT SERIES TRACK RECORDS

Class Name Hometown ST Vehicle Engine ET MPH Date
RWD Mark Woodruff, Arnold, MO 69 Nova 706 Chevy 8.255 07/01/2008
RWD Mark Woodruff, Arnold, MO 69 Nova 706 Chevy 178.71 07/01/2008

TRK Kevin Autenrieth, Bethalto, IL 91 S-10 434 Chevy 9.065 07/01/2008
TRK Larry Richards, Hillsboro, MO 52 3100 427 Chevy 149.07 9/4/2007

4CYL Jon Huber, St. Louis, MO 79 Mustang 178 Ford 9.147 4/15/2008
4CYL Jon Huber, St. Louis, MO 79 Mustang 178 Ford 152.16 10/16/2007

DSL Chris Calkins, Union, MO 70 C-10 403 Chevy 9.875 9/25/2007
DSL Chris Calkins, Union, MO 70 C-10 403 Chevy 139.41 9/25/2007

RTY Eric Cheatham, Belleville, IL 93 RX-7 79 Mazda 10.048 9/26/2006
RTY Eric Cheatham, Belleville, IL 93 RX-7 79 Mazda 137.95 9/26/2006

AWD Adnan Omerovic, St. Louis, MO 95 Talon 122 Eagle 10.234 9/11/2007
AWD Adnan Omerovic, St. Louis, MO 95 Talon 122 Eagle 141.50 7/22/2008

6CYL David Day, Bunker Hill, IL 87 Regal 249 Buick 10.690 8/26/2008
6CYL Troy Doolady, Columbia, MO 87 Regal 231 Buick 131.10 8/19/2008

FWD Adam Corbitt, St. Charles, MO 85 Golf 123 Volks 10.989 05/06/2008
FWD Adam Corbitt, St. Charles, MO 85 Golf 123 Volks 134.87 05/06/2008




SEPTEMBER 16th, 2008 STREET CAR SHOOTOUT SERIES QUALIFIERS
Pos Name Hometown ST Vehicle Engine ET MPH Date

EVENT 20 09/16/2008

1 Tim Mallicoat Collinsville IL 68 Camaro 565 Chevy 8.573 158.22
2 Tim Roberts St. Charles MO 71 Cutlass 540 Chevy 8.859 149.55
3 Travis Smalley O'Fallon MO 03 Mustang 281 Ford 9.849 136.70
4 Tim Kirkpatrick Troy MO 88 Mustang 393 Ford 9.874 136.46
5 Mike McCombs Jacksonville IL 87 Mustang 418 Ford 10.038 137.72
6 Charles Bewen Wildwood MO 67 Firebird 383 Pont 10.099 135.16
7 Hal Marshall Collinsville IL 86 S-10 383 Chevy 10.133 130.75
8 Jeremy Heizer Crystal City MO 91 Firebird 402 Pont 10.258 132.46
9 Curtis Paulfrey Brighton IL 68 Camaro 502 Chevy 10.331 128.95
10 Raymond Arthur Edwardsville IL 93 S-10 355 Chevy 10.677 125.76
11 Chad Barton Hillsboro MO 01 Corvette 346 Chevy 10.690 130.04
12 Scott Boning Union MO 93 Mustang 347 Ford 10.767 126.21
13 Mike Mester Valley Park MO 00 Firebird 402 Pont 10.894 124.55
14 Nathan Grant Edwardsville IL 02 Camaro 346 Chevy 10.993 125.46
15 Andrew Connors Festus MO 00 Camaro 346 Chevy 11.133 122.96
16 Andy Park Sparta IL 69 Chevelle 462 Chevy 11.147 119.72


Just wondering robsbird how fast are you?
my present car is a 68 road runner 542 ci 6.0 car 3200 w/o driver now if you and I are in the same class and you are faster I just have to speed up. slo mo this could be something like the outlaw cars only better. any car with some light modification could compete in these classes. It would just all be heads up classes. If you read about the 3 catigories. You would have classes in each catigory. each class would run heads up. if you & I were in the same catigory and you won your class and I won mine. we race! the only handicap is at the start. ever what the quickest e.t. in the event for your class is what you run off of. same with my class.lets use the 1/8 the quickest e.t. for your class was 4.72 and mmine was 5.89 I get the handicap but no breakout for eather class. you happen to win your catigory. You would then race the winners of the other 2 catigories useing your class event e.t.. now some say well thats bracket raceing. no its not
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:20 PM
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[quote="robsbird 8) you don't need a tear down, just a cc tube. It not hard to tech a class when the number of rules are limited. nhra safety rules would applied. first you will need 3 catigories ( 3 catigories to cover all the existing cars) catigory # 1 rail and roadsters , catigory # 2 tube chassis car, catigory #3 modified stock chassis ( factory frame rails,firewalls ,floors )[/quote]

If you go by NHRA Super Gas rules, Roadsters would be category #2.
Since they are left hand steer. Altereds like mine would be category #1 since they are center sitting.
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Old 01-02-2009, 07:38 PM
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[quote=slowmotion]
Originally Posted by "robsbird 8) you don't need a tear down, just a cc tube. It not hard to tech a class when the number of rules are limited. nhra safety rules would applied. first you will need 3 catigories ( 3 catigories to cover all the existing cars) catigory # 1 rail and roadsters , catigory # 2 tube chassis car, catigory #3 modified stock chassis ( factory frame rails,firewalls ,floors )[/quote

If you go by NHRA Super Gas rules, Roadsters would be category #2.
Since they are left hand steer. Altereds like mine would be category #1 since they are center sitting.
:?: well you could have the roadsters and altereds in the same classes or :idea: in the catigory 2 .you can always have brackets for those did not want this. A weight to ci ratio for the class. my car would be in catigory #3 my wt to ci would determin my class. lets say 5.5 lbs x 542ci = 2981 w/o driver ( incentive to loose a few lbs) there could be a minimun wt in the catigory #3 like 2700 lbs. at 5.5 = about 490 ci a 600 ci at 5.5 =3300
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Old 01-02-2009, 07:58 PM
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[quote=robsbird]
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Originally Posted by "robsbird 8) you don't need a tear down, just a cc tube. It not hard to tech a class when the number of rules are limited. nhra safety rules would applied. first you will need 3 catigories ( 3 catigories to cover all the existing cars) catigory # 1 rail and roadsters , catigory # 2 tube chassis car, catigory #3 modified stock chassis ( factory frame rails,firewalls ,floors )[/quote

If you go by NHRA Super Gas rules, Roadsters would be category #2.
Since they are left hand steer. Altereds like mine would be category #1 since they are center sitting.
:?: well you could have the roadsters and altereds in the same classes or :idea: in the catigory 2
If you're making the rules, you can do whatever you want. But I think NHRA's reasoning is that an altered is just a funny looking dragster. A roadster is a tube chassis race car that had the roof cut off. I've seen classes that don't allow open-cockpit cars no matter what configuration.

BTW you're way our of my league with this kind of racing anyway. With the wrong converter in the car I ran 6.27 @107 in the 1/8.
Had the converter tightened up 1000 rpm. we'll see what it runs this spring.
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Old 01-02-2009, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by "robsbird 8) you don't need a tear down, just a cc tube. It not hard to tech a class when the number of rules are limited. nhra safety rules would applied. first you will need 3 catigories ( 3 catigories to cover all the existing cars) catigory # 1 rail and roadsters , catigory # 2 tube chassis car, catigory #3 modified stock chassis ( factory frame rails,firewalls ,floors )[/quote

If you go by NHRA Super Gas rules, Roadsters would be category #2.
Since they are left hand steer. Altereds like mine would be category #1 since they are center sitting.
:?: well you could have the roadsters and altereds in the same classes or :idea: in the catigory 2
If you're making the rules, you can do whatever you want. But I think NHRA's reasoning is that an altered is just a funny looking dragster. A roadster is a tube chassis race car that had the roof cut off. I've seen classes that don't allow open-cockpit cars no matter what configuration.

BTW you're way our of my league with this kind of racing anyway. With the wrong converter in the car I ran 6.27 @107 in the 1/8.
Had the converter tightened up 1000 rpm. we'll see what it runs this spring.
I would go by the nhra thinking just modify some btw what does you car weigh. plus there are lots of cars in my catigory that are faster.I think my car is a underachiever.
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Old 01-03-2009, 05:07 AM
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Never had a chance to weigh it. We're guessing 1800. It's a very mild 468. 8.5:1 hydrualic cam. 450hp 532ft/lb
4.56 gears we need to change them to about 3.50 to make a 1/4 mile pass.
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Old 01-03-2009, 06:37 AM
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Are you aware that a P&G tube cost $950.00?
Other problems exist, such as a lot of todays racers cannot even change a sparkplug, it's not like the old days you build them you race them, many of us still do, but you see more and more racers having the engines built by a race shop and don't have a clue what they have to do for the tech team to check legality, IE CC etc. and if they counldn't put it back together for the next round, then you know some dummy would pull out a gun.

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