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Old 06-18-2007, 08:39 AM
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i will vouch for george. i have been a member of MSV since it started and i really like it over there. George is a good guy, and always wants to help in whatever way he can. of course this matter has been taken care of already and doesn't need my input, but as a member of both boards, i feel i am obligated to state that no hard feelings should be had by anyone on either forum!

now in the next breath i will also say that this board has come a long way since tom started as the moderator. i also enjoy coming over hear and reading the posts here also. this board has a larger mix of people and therefore a larger mix of info. the people here are great as well, and just like msv the people are like family.

i'm with ron, group hug? ops:

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Old 06-18-2007, 01:59 PM
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Great site here. I get some valuable info off this site especially concerning scammers. My buddies and I have bought three cars and one motor so far in the past year from RJ so we research a little here first. Keep up the great work!
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:15 PM
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i would have to agree with brian talk is way to cheap on the internet. we on here as a group is one of the finest group of racers that i have ever found! and im old! ive enjoyed countless phone convos with several guys on here about different stuff including racing set ups etc... ive never attacked any one or have been attacked by anyone and ive been a member here for along time. ive learned alot and met some great people from this site and hopfully given some good advice as well. as stated above this site is for racers helping racers. the site is great for information,selling our stuff,buying stuff trading stuff where else can you do that on a world wide scale? huh tell me! i just got finished talking to a guy in spain! also gotta email from"down under" . canada as well! this is the site to be a member on! i just wish i could sell something!!!!!! lol mike in new mexico
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:21 PM
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I am a member of both RJ and MSV among others. I think this is just a misunderstanding. At times when we think and type, it always doesn't come out the same. I've known George and Tom for several years and don't think either has any ill will towards the other. I'm sure George was referring to the time before Tom took over as Moderator. It did get bad in here. If you posted advice there was one guy that would dispute anything you said right or wrong back that up with name dropping and tell the guy who asked the question to call him at his business. I'm very glad Tom got this site going on the right track again.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:54 PM
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To Tom and all the members of RJ (of which I'm one):

I see my errant post made it's way over here. I also see some of the guys cut and pasted my remarks to Tom afterwards and I have to say that I'm glad I have friends watching my backside. ops: ops:

But I want to personally apologize to all you guys and Tom right here on RJ. For you guys that haven't been members or been on this forum for a couple of years, you probably feel like like I slapped you in the face and that is understandable. For the guys that have been around longer than that, you knew exactly what I was referring to. There are actually 2 RJs...one before Tom and one after. In my post on Motorsports Village I was referring to the former although I failed to mention that fact because I guess I thought my audience knew what I was talking about. In hindsight, that wasn't very responsible of me. Even though I knew what I was talking about, there are a lot of new members on MSV and here on RJ that have no idea or how and why MSV came to be in the first place. You know what they say about "assume" and did I ever make an ass out of me!

Anyway, to bring you "new" guys up to date, MSV was started because of all the mudslinging that was going on here DURING THAT TIME. The RJ forum was not moderated and it just got out of hand. About the same time MSV was started and a lot of us jumped ship, Tom was given the job of cleaning this place up and what a great job he has done. If he hasn't deleted the old posts you can go way back and see what we had to contend with then. I'm sure my post from MSV will then make more sense.

I do wish that Tom had pm'd me before copying my post here and I would have explained and edited my post to clarify what I meant. But that's water under the bridge. I hope there's no hard feelings. There's none on my part.

So come over and see us at MSV. We'll treat ya so many ways you'll have to like one of them!

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Old 06-19-2007, 04:57 AM
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George

Thanks George you are a stand up guy in my book,Sorry but I think I read too deep into your post yesterday,and after the re-edit its all clear to me now,I have no hard feelings what so ever,not then or now,

I feel everyone is entitled to their own opinion on things,lots of times its ok to disagree and debate,but to argue and name call like in the past,well that wasn't very good,I would hope that when such debates happen people will understand the true meaning of this forum,as well as MSV,
Friendship,and guys helping one another to achieve their goals,thats what its all about,people helping people,and friendship is a very strong bond.

Its one thing to learn and debate,but name calling,fighting is not going to happen here,hopefully again.
If anyone has a problem and I don't catch it,please let me know and I'll address the issue in a timely mannor,

I'd like to offer anyone,that has questions or answers to any of the threads to please give their input,as they are more then welcome here.

To all those that replyed to this thread,thanks for replying,this thread was not to bash George or anyone,when I read the original post I thought I was doing a bad job here,it was like a reality check for me,I just wanted several opinions,you know some times a person thinks they are doing the right thing,when they were doing it all wrong.I didn't think it was so,

One other thing,George,I had a mishap here about 6 weeks ago and lost most all of our posts since this forum started,so we basicly started over here with very few posts, (One thing to those that do forum Admin,Don't touch the pruning button ask questions first) :P in the first week of May,07 also there were 1100+ porn spammers in the member list that got the boot.
Since then we have had 255 new members sign up and post,they were members of the classified site as well as new people.Thanks everyone that helped pick the site back up and get back on track,I have had very positive results,I felt.

Also We added a few new members to help make this board because I can't do it myself,its too much on me.This is the reason why the guys at RJ didn't have the time to work this board,and I understand it now.Anyone that runs a board will know why,It may look easy but its not,

I can't say enough for Ryan and PJ, and the rest of the RJ gang they have been the greatest people to know.

I know this forum has helped RJ I have seen the results,its working,and the Scammers are still running wild,but some are not running very far,we have had great results in there tracking and contacting and getting results,but there are still some that have had losses.
I'd have to thank those that help in that section to get results,My hats off to you,great job guys.

One thing,check the user section,scammer section before you buy,it might save you some grief,I see it time and time again,people only come looking in here when the mail didn't come,only to find out they been ripped off or been in a rob Peter to pay Paul situation.

One last thing here,a site or forum is only as strong as their members,please join up and participate,there is strength in numbers,some one always knows someone,and the internet is a very powerful tool,so with that said,lets all support the sites that support you.

Thanks guys and I appreciate all the feed back,you guys are the best!

And thanks RJ for giving,Us a decent place,with more new things to come,Its in the works

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Old 06-19-2007, 06:19 AM
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well said tom!!!!
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:22 AM
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hey topsportsman1,
i think this is the place to let others know some of the things that
happen, or have dealt with. For bad mouthing, well don't you think
that some individuals drive you to that point, I think once they have
that kind of experience they change their minds and become one
of the worst to bad mouth anyone when it happens to the person
who thinks it badly managed. But you know theres alot of butts
in a crowd and alot of opinions to boot. that guy is just an ol' coot.
your job is well done
ernest
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by signsbyesa
hey topsportsman1,
i think this is the place to let others know some of the things that
happen, or have dealt with. For bad mouthing, well don't you think
that some individuals drive you to that point, I think once they have
that kind of experience they change their minds and become one
of the worst to bad mouth anyone when it happens to the person
who thinks it badly managed. But you know theres alot of butts
in a crowd and alot of opinions to boot. that guy is just an ol' coot.
your job is well done
ernest
Hey Guys, I'm not going to defend myself on this subject forever. Tom and I have put it to bed. I'm not an "ol' coot" and I don't purposely badmouth undeservedly. I just didn't differentiate which RJ forum I was talking about...the old one or the new one, and yes Virginia, there IS a difference. Yes, things were that bad back then. If you weren't there then you have no idea what I'm talking about. Tom was there, Bjuice was there, Corey was there, Bubstr was there, Ron was there and they ALL know how bad it was. If you look at RJ today you see none of that so it shouldn't be too hard to figure that the comment I made was a reference to the old days at RJ. How bad do you think things have to be in order for a group of guys to complain to the management, and after getting no resolution to the problem, break off and start another forum??? Pretty bad. It was full of personal insults mostly instigated by one individual but it only takes one or two bad apples to spoil the whole crop. And it was badly managed or it wouldn't have gotten to that point. In fact, I think it was the starting up of MSV that was instrumental in waking Ryan and PJ up to the point they decided to delagate some authority and got Tom involved to clean the place up. I'm not making this stuff up. Read the entire thread. All the guys that were here then have backed up what I have said and that was the situation I was referencing in my original post. Simple as that. Let's move on. There are more important and funs things to discuss than someone's "mistyping".

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Old 06-19-2007, 09:10 AM
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I WAS HERE WHEN ALL THE CRAZINESS WAS GOING ON AND REALLY DIDN'T WANT ANY PART OF IT---TOM HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND THE RJ FORUM IS ONE OF THE MOST LEVEL HEADED AND BEST RUN FORUMS OUT THERE--MSV IS A GREAT FORUM TOO,[I DO BELONG] I JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO BE EVERYWHERE AT THE SAME TIME---LET US PUT THIS TO BED AND GO ON WITH OUR:" PIGS AND GOATS"--- :lol: LIVELY :lol:
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