622 Paul
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Watch out for this guy :!: :!: He just ripped a guy a new one on YB on a engine, He has a ad on here ad# 1770028, Just a warning to all :!: :!:
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*** Warning, save yourself the trouble of dealing with 622paul ***
I purchased a long block from 622paul, it was advertised as having only 20 passes on it and it is ready to go 1080hp, and he said it has never been damaged.
I received the engine and removed the heads and oil pan for inspection of the bearings, rings, lifters, etc. So far I have found the following items that are either damaged or not as advertised:
1 Broken front mounting boss on the block.
2 Block broken under front passenger side of intake manifold.
3 Holes in block with stripped threads.
4 Holes in block with heli coils.
5 Block bore was supposed to be 4.60”, is actually 4.625” (max recommended by manufacturer is 4.60”).
6 Oil pan is heavily damaged, two corners dented in, and bottom of oil pan smashed to the point were the oil pump pickup has almost gone through the oil pan.
7 Oil pan was suppose to be a Jeff Johnston ball bearing pan, I don’t know what brand it is but it has doors instead of the balls.
8 It has the wrong head gaskets, and they are blown out between the cylinders.
9 Wrong head studs, several studs only go through the head about 1/8”, they put the nuts on and only captured about 1/8” of threads.
10 Front passenger corner of the engine shows signs of being dropped or hit on the block and head casting, and head stud nut is smashed.
11 Rocker arms are a different ratio than advertised.
12 Cam is not the specs that were advertised.
13 Cam is not even the brand that was advertised.
14 Connecting rods are not the length that was advertised, the block has been decked about 0.080” and I think that is why they used a shorter rod than what is typical in this engine.
15 7 of the 16 lifters are unusable.
16 Connecting rods are aluminum and were supposed to be new, the serial numbers come back to 1997 vintage and have been damaged on the big end on a couple rods, they evidently also changed out a couple rods and switched cylinders on a couple.
17 No flexplate was included, was supposed to have a CSR flexplate.
All this and I haven't taken apart the short block or disassembled the heads yet.
I just want to get my money back from him and I'll send the engine back. I've contacted him several times by phone and emails, and he says that he doesn't have the money to send back to me. Well... when the engine came up for sale, I didn't have the money either, but I sold some stuff to come up with it.
If he wants to make this right, he can come up with the money.
More info here http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=203653
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
622paul
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*** Warning, save yourself the trouble of dealing with 622paul ***
I purchased a long block from 622paul, it was advertised as having only 20 passes on it and it is ready to go 1080hp, and he said it has never been damaged.
I received the engine and removed the heads and oil pan for inspection of the bearings, rings, lifters, etc. So far I have found the following items that are either damaged or not as advertised:
1 Broken front mounting boss on the block.
2 Block broken under front passenger side of intake manifold.
3 Holes in block with stripped threads.
4 Holes in block with heli coils.
5 Block bore was supposed to be 4.60”, is actually 4.625” (max recommended by manufacturer is 4.60”).
6 Oil pan is heavily damaged, two corners dented in, and bottom of oil pan smashed to the point were the oil pump pickup has almost gone through the oil pan.
7 Oil pan was suppose to be a Jeff Johnston ball bearing pan, I don’t know what brand it is but it has doors instead of the balls.
8 It has the wrong head gaskets, and they are blown out between the cylinders.
9 Wrong head studs, several studs only go through the head about 1/8”, they put the nuts on and only captured about 1/8” of threads.
10 Front passenger corner of the engine shows signs of being dropped or hit on the block and head casting, and head stud nut is smashed.
11 Rocker arms are a different ratio than advertised.
12 Cam is not the specs that were advertised.
13 Cam is not even the brand that was advertised.
14 Connecting rods are not the length that was advertised, the block has been decked about 0.080” and I think that is why they used a shorter rod than what is typical in this engine.
15 7 of the 16 lifters are unusable.
16 Connecting rods are aluminum and were supposed to be new, the serial numbers come back to 1997 vintage and have been damaged on the big end on a couple rods, they evidently also changed out a couple rods and switched cylinders on a couple.
17 No flexplate was included, was supposed to have a CSR flexplate.
All this and I haven't taken apart the short block or disassembled the heads yet.
I just want to get my money back from him and I'll send the engine back. I've contacted him several times by phone and emails, and he says that he doesn't have the money to send back to me. Well... when the engine came up for sale, I didn't have the money either, but I sold some stuff to come up with it.
If he wants to make this right, he can come up with the money.
More info here http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=203653
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
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Hi Paul, just checking on your reputation? Well, come on back, it is now 3:56pm. 8)
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i am not the one who ownes the motor i was was the middle man on this deal we offer to send him parts to make it right.the owner of tne motor has talk to him but does not have the money to give back.if you have any question on the matter call me 916-968-4403.
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Re: 622 motor
Are you kidding me? Call you if I have any questions, :lol: :lol: :lol:
Apparently you are the responsible party, middle man or not. If the man dealt with you, then that is just the way it is. Send him replacement parts!! Again :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: . What could you possibly send him to mend the broken mount boss? Or the broken piece off the block? I have an idea, how about, ummmmmm, this might sound crazy........................HIS MONEY! Any communication between you and me would be in writing. :shock:
Apparently you are the responsible party, middle man or not. If the man dealt with you, then that is just the way it is. Send him replacement parts!! Again :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: . What could you possibly send him to mend the broken mount boss? Or the broken piece off the block? I have an idea, how about, ummmmmm, this might sound crazy........................HIS MONEY! Any communication between you and me would be in writing. :shock:
Originally Posted by 622paul
i am not the one who ownes the motor i was was the middle man on this deal we offer to send him parts to make it right.the owner of tne motor has talk to him but does not have the money to give back.if you have any question on the matter call me 916-968-4403.
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Here is a message Paul sent me:
From: 622paul To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-02-19 16:17:16
Subject: Re: MOROSO MR GASKET CSI 540555565
Re: Ad #1770028 - MOROSO MR GASKET CSI 540555565
On [2010-02-19 16:09:22] mopar1968 wrote:
> He ask me on Yellow bullet to post on here, If he tell's me it is cleared up i will remove thread from forum not untill !! Myself and others hate people who take advantage of others i have been taken before and know first hand how it feels, you tell him to tell me when it is ok to remove !!!
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> On [2010-02-19 15:55:16] 622paul wrote:
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> > On [2010-02-19 09:01:07] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > You ripping people off on YB i see. I am posting you as a scammer on here.
> > what are you talking about we have been trying to work with the guy on the motor if you have any question on the matter call me 916-968-4403.call me
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From: 622paul To: mopar1968 Date: 2010-02-19 16:17:16
Subject: Re: MOROSO MR GASKET CSI 540555565
Re: Ad #1770028 - MOROSO MR GASKET CSI 540555565
On [2010-02-19 16:09:22] mopar1968 wrote:
> He ask me on Yellow bullet to post on here, If he tell's me it is cleared up i will remove thread from forum not untill !! Myself and others hate people who take advantage of others i have been taken before and know first hand how it feels, you tell him to tell me when it is ok to remove !!!
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> On [2010-02-19 15:55:16] 622paul wrote:
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> > On [2010-02-19 09:01:07] mopar1968 wrote:
> > > You ripping people off on YB i see. I am posting you as a scammer on here.
> > what are you talking about we have been trying to work with the guy on the motor if you have any question on the matter call me 916-968-4403.call me
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I think i pissed him off :!: :!:
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mopar your a bitch give me your number i give you a call slopar.
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mopar your a bitch give me your number i give you a call slopar.
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mopar you made a new friend
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:lol: :lol: bet you have been called worse. looks like pissed it off :lol:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well, at least he got the "slopar" right :shock: :shock:
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Well, at least he got the "slopar" right :shock: :shock:
Originally Posted by mopar1968
I think i pissed him off :!: :!:
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mopar your a bitch give me your number i give you a call slopar.
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''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
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mopar your a bitch give me your number i give you a call slopar.
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''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
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Might be slopar but i sure don't rip people off :!: :!: Oh yeah i have been called worse by ''Littlerod'' :!: :!: :lol: :lol: :lol: I think by his post and messages we know where the guilt lay's :!: :!:
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''