622 Paul
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Re: 622 Paul
Originally Posted by mopar1968
Watch out for this guy :!: :!: He just ripped a guy a new one on YB on a engine, He has a ad on here ad# 1770028, Just a warning to all :!: :!:
622paul
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*** Warning, save yourself the trouble of dealing with 622paul ***
I purchased a long block from 622paul, it was advertised as having only 20 passes on it and it is ready to go 1080hp, and he said it has never been damaged.
I received the engine and removed the heads and oil pan for inspection of the bearings, rings, lifters, etc. So far I have found the following items that are either damaged or not as advertised:
1 Broken front mounting boss on the block.
2 Block broken under front passenger side of intake manifold.
3 Holes in block with stripped threads.
4 Holes in block with heli coils.
5 Block bore was supposed to be 4.60”, is actually 4.625” (max recommended by manufacturer is 4.60”).
6 Oil pan is heavily damaged, two corners dented in, and bottom of oil pan smashed to the point were the oil pump pickup has almost gone through the oil pan.
7 Oil pan was suppose to be a Jeff Johnston ball bearing pan, I don’t know what brand it is but it has doors instead of the balls.
8 It has the wrong head gaskets, and they are blown out between the cylinders.
9 Wrong head studs, several studs only go through the head about 1/8”, they put the nuts on and only captured about 1/8” of threads.
10 Front passenger corner of the engine shows signs of being dropped or hit on the block and head casting, and head stud nut is smashed.
11 Rocker arms are a different ratio than advertised.
12 Cam is not the specs that were advertised.
13 Cam is not even the brand that was advertised.
14 Connecting rods are not the length that was advertised, the block has been decked about 0.080” and I think that is why they used a shorter rod than what is typical in this engine.
15 7 of the 16 lifters are unusable.
16 Connecting rods are aluminum and were supposed to be new, the serial numbers come back to 1997 vintage and have been damaged on the big end on a couple rods, they evidently also changed out a couple rods and switched cylinders on a couple.
17 No flexplate was included, was supposed to have a CSR flexplate.
All this and I haven't taken apart the short block or disassembled the heads yet.
I just want to get my money back from him and I'll send the engine back. I've contacted him several times by phone and emails, and he says that he doesn't have the money to send back to me. Well... when the engine came up for sale, I didn't have the money either, but I sold some stuff to come up with it.
If he wants to make this right, he can come up with the money.
More info here http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=203653
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
622paul
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*** Warning, save yourself the trouble of dealing with 622paul ***
I purchased a long block from 622paul, it was advertised as having only 20 passes on it and it is ready to go 1080hp, and he said it has never been damaged.
I received the engine and removed the heads and oil pan for inspection of the bearings, rings, lifters, etc. So far I have found the following items that are either damaged or not as advertised:
1 Broken front mounting boss on the block.
2 Block broken under front passenger side of intake manifold.
3 Holes in block with stripped threads.
4 Holes in block with heli coils.
5 Block bore was supposed to be 4.60”, is actually 4.625” (max recommended by manufacturer is 4.60”).
6 Oil pan is heavily damaged, two corners dented in, and bottom of oil pan smashed to the point were the oil pump pickup has almost gone through the oil pan.
7 Oil pan was suppose to be a Jeff Johnston ball bearing pan, I don’t know what brand it is but it has doors instead of the balls.
8 It has the wrong head gaskets, and they are blown out between the cylinders.
9 Wrong head studs, several studs only go through the head about 1/8”, they put the nuts on and only captured about 1/8” of threads.
10 Front passenger corner of the engine shows signs of being dropped or hit on the block and head casting, and head stud nut is smashed.
11 Rocker arms are a different ratio than advertised.
12 Cam is not the specs that were advertised.
13 Cam is not even the brand that was advertised.
14 Connecting rods are not the length that was advertised, the block has been decked about 0.080” and I think that is why they used a shorter rod than what is typical in this engine.
15 7 of the 16 lifters are unusable.
16 Connecting rods are aluminum and were supposed to be new, the serial numbers come back to 1997 vintage and have been damaged on the big end on a couple rods, they evidently also changed out a couple rods and switched cylinders on a couple.
17 No flexplate was included, was supposed to have a CSR flexplate.
All this and I haven't taken apart the short block or disassembled the heads yet.
I just want to get my money back from him and I'll send the engine back. I've contacted him several times by phone and emails, and he says that he doesn't have the money to send back to me. Well... when the engine came up for sale, I didn't have the money either, but I sold some stuff to come up with it.
If he wants to make this right, he can come up with the money.
More info here http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=203653
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
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I bought a ARC Switch Panel from him I believe in 06. I just had it sitting waiting for the car to be completed. When we went to wire it up, not a single switch worked. It was basically trash. I never said anything due to the length of time that transpired, but I can assure you no matter how good his ads were, I steered waaaaay clear.
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if you look at the pics its shocking that somebody would sell that , give him his money back , or a new block set of rods lifters pan ect.
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So now it is building against him, Middle man my A$$ :!: :!:
622paul
Name: Paul Personius
DOB: 12 June 1964
Phone: 916-968-4403
Claims to be an engine builder....yeah right
email: [email protected] (I'm not sure if this is current though)
Address: 8636 Quail Oak Way
Orangevale CA. 95662
County where he resides: Sacramento
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
622paul
Name: Paul Personius
DOB: 12 June 1964
Phone: 916-968-4403
Claims to be an engine builder....yeah right
email: [email protected] (I'm not sure if this is current though)
Address: 8636 Quail Oak Way
Orangevale CA. 95662
County where he resides: Sacramento
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
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Originally Posted by mopar1968
So now it is building against him, Middle man my A$$ :!: :!:
622paul
Name: Paul Personius
DOB: 12 June 1964
Phone: 916-968-4403
Claims to be an engine builder....yeah right
email: [email protected] (I'm not sure if this is current though)
Address: 8636 Quail Oak Way
Orangevale CA. 95662
County where he resides: Sacramento
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
622paul
Name: Paul Personius
DOB: 12 June 1964
Phone: 916-968-4403
Claims to be an engine builder....yeah right
email: [email protected] (I'm not sure if this is current though)
Address: 8636 Quail Oak Way
Orangevale CA. 95662
County where he resides: Sacramento
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
You have got to be kidding me. I wish I was in the state right now. I would make a short drive (4hr) to Sacramento to see what is up and get more info on this guy. It is just to bad that I aint in the states right now.
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These are pics of the engine he sold :!: :!:
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
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These are pics of the engine he sold :!: :!:
''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''
''I AM NOT GRUMPY UNLESS YOU MAKE ME THAT WAY''
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wow :shock: :shock: seen better blocks in salvage yard
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The motor is junk, but I checked the pics and it looks like the buyer got some nice dachsunds.
Nice stuff Paul Personius (aka Sanford Purveyor of Junk).
When you get tired of calling people bitches, perhaps you can explain this CRAP that you called an engine.
Scorp
Nice stuff Paul Personius (aka Sanford Purveyor of Junk).
When you get tired of calling people bitches, perhaps you can explain this CRAP that you called an engine.
Scorp
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Paul,
What the hell did you send the man? Middle man my ass (like mopar said)!
No rational and honest person would have had anything to do with that stroking you gave the man!
What the hell did you send the man? Middle man my ass (like mopar said)!
No rational and honest person would have had anything to do with that stroking you gave the man!
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x2 hey he had to know he shipped and it is his buddy had to have at very least seen the pan damage and external damage once. and if was "helping" a friend i would have said hey im gonna put the bad stuff on or you do it yourself. this clown sound like he could be from the little rod clan