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Old 11-06-2007, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by buffjhsn1
barry had a beretta built there and that thing is sweet....i don't know if he will read this post or not but he can tell ya more about them than i ever could. all i can say is it is one nice car :shock:

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Just saw this but yes I did have a car built there and I it really came out better than I could could believe. Everything was top notch and Jim (owner) is a stand up guy!!! He knew I was Just a bracket racer but did not treat me any different than anyone else that can in to his shop!!

Don his tin man is the best that I have ever seen and always get at the track "who did the tin on your car" It's fantastic!! Gary shop forman, gave me some real good idea's on what I should do with certain things on the car. It was just a real good experience and if I ever decide to build another car they will be doing it Also on it's second pass with the setting it left there it went 8.69 at 158....
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by woodsman
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Originally Posted by mcracecars
also another note...most reputable LEGIT builders will not ask you to pay for Building the car up front...if they need your money up front to make payroll and supply parts their business is hurting anI WOULD RUN AWAY FAST.........
With all respect Brian, I have yet to find a professionally run chassis or engine shop that will finance a engine or car for anyone.
All the big ones require about 5,000 down to hold your spot on the waiting list to build you a car. When it is time to build they need about 50% (includes the original 5,000), another 25% at about the half way point and the balance when complete and ready to be delivered or picked up.
Extras and additions need to be paid up front.
This assures that the customer is serious and has the money for the project.
I for one will not start a big project without 50% down to start. I have seen other chassis shops over the years, before I started, take on a project, get a few bucks down , then the customer has no money to finish and the car sits in the guys shop for 3 years... not good at all.
Building these cars is expensive, 60,000 to over 100,000 is not uncommon, and it is kind of like building a house, the builder is not going to start unless he is sure you have the money. And draws are taken at certain points in the construction. This assures that the customer is going to do his part.
I am not going to finance 30,000 in parts and 6 months labor to have the cusomer change his mind in the end.
Now grant it, smaller projects like say, ladderbar/coilover installations, 6 point bars, 10 point cage, small repairs or updates do not need deposits, but them big ones, well the builders got to protect his butt...
I agree it is a shame what happened to some of these guys on here that pay a wack of money to some of these chassis shops, or engine shops and not get anything in return, but that is were research and customer referals come in. But some of these guys will go for the cheaper price and this is what happens. Maybe some of these guys are really crooks, or maybe just bad business men and are not making enough to pay the rent, I dont know.

Ed- your my BUD but i am going to have to save a little face and disagree with you here at least on the motor part of this...they are 3 major motor builders here in the south PAR,FULTON,ClEMENTS that will build you a motor with the cost of the parts of front...
I would like to know for the heck of it if Wes Woods pre-paid for his motor from the well known shop out west..rear/morrison i beleieve it was...
would just like to know ?? :roll: :roll:

now keep in mind every one of these guys i mentioned in my home town are parts dealers and carry a majority of this stuff on the floor such as blocks etc....i am also sure they are collecting the juice on these parts also...i know that Scotty Cannon caught one of this motor builders doing this to him back in his PRO-MOD ON-SAT days and dropped the builder like a hot potatoe and went to EAGLE...that i know for a fact...LOL...

i also PM you with some of my personal thoughts on the chassis side of this..which addresses the $30,000 in parts :?: ..i just wanted to share this with you in private cause i got respect for your profession and you and do not want anything taken out of context by anyone...

you will freak when you here about the 'NATIONALLY " KNOWN chassis builder taking 40k from some PRO-MOD boys from ALABAMA and a year and 1/2 later no car and no parts....ohhhh yeahhhh this gets real good..
and we ain't talking about no 'Tooties'; race cars neither..this is BIG NAME !!!!!

see the pm i sent.

Brian
Well I will have to put this one down as better late then never. But as for my RMRE that I had custom built I did have to put down half the money down at the start of the build and the rest at the finish. I have to say I think that is fair to do.
I still follow the thread.....nothing wrong in my eye's giving 1/2 up front for 20k/25k engine from a reputable company like R/M Gene Fulton, Par racing engines.......$12,500...is a drop in the bucket compared to having a $75,000/$100,000 chrome moly chassis car built and you have to write a 35,000/$50,000 check up front.......my goodness even when someone gets a construction loan on a house its paid in draws from the bacnk after the bank inspector goes to the job site and makes sure the job is at the stage it should be.....hey its the buyers call SPEND YOUR MONEY AS YOU DESIRE..there is really no RIGHT OR WRONG..its how you feel about it...and i hope you fair well.

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