need a cam for a 496 BBC in a heavy car
03-01-2012, 09:58 PM
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Oh,my headers. They were a set of old corvette side pipe style headers,modified into over the rail headers for my car. 2 1/8 primaries with a 4" collector,4" bullets and then two foot of 4" pipe in to a turn out.TWIMC
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03-02-2012, 07:13 PM
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Thanks roadkill2, the car does get some attention because no one expects it to run that good.
Olds, I think it cuts both ways, the cam you're now running would definately like more compression, but i also think with the 5.14 gear you're not using the torque the 496" has. i'm not familiar with the Canfield heads, but i know that the Dart 308's steel heads will make 850 HP, and they flow 360/365 as cast, with compression and almost identical cam that you have. Either way it cost about the same to go to a PG, it will cost you about $1200.00, to go to 14.1 pistons, Probe or Icon's will cost you about $600.00, plus rebalancing the rotating assy, and dropping the gear to 4.56 or 4.30. I know what i would do. I would opt. to the higher compression and different gear. I don't think a PG would pick up more than .015/.020 in the 1/8. I would also put a transbrake valve body in the 400 trans. Course i wouldn't have the money to do either. SS sucks
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Olds, I think it cuts both ways, the cam you're now running would definately like more compression, but i also think with the 5.14 gear you're not using the torque the 496" has. i'm not familiar with the Canfield heads, but i know that the Dart 308's steel heads will make 850 HP, and they flow 360/365 as cast, with compression and almost identical cam that you have. Either way it cost about the same to go to a PG, it will cost you about $1200.00, to go to 14.1 pistons, Probe or Icon's will cost you about $600.00, plus rebalancing the rotating assy, and dropping the gear to 4.56 or 4.30. I know what i would do. I would opt. to the higher compression and different gear. I don't think a PG would pick up more than .015/.020 in the 1/8. I would also put a transbrake valve body in the 400 trans. Course i wouldn't have the money to do either. SS sucks
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03-03-2012, 10:38 AM
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Okay. Thank you Mark.
Zipper,I ran 4.56 gears this past season because I put a plate on the car with the idea of spraying my way to the 5.95 index. It ended up that I never touched the button. Those 4.56's took my 60' from 1.42-1.45 down to a 1.6-1.65. Of course,I'm pulling timing out on every pass trying to run the 6.95 index,but it still killed my short time. I'm thinking that the slow 60' couldnt be helping my reactions time either. Takes soooo long for the car to move!
I really prefer running on foot brake,but its hard to be competitive when 90% of the field runs t-brakes. EVERY round I lost last season was due to getting treed. And the biggest margin was 0.0300 sec. , so Im right there on them. Hoping going back to the 5.14s will help jump off the line a bit faster.
And I know what you mean about affording stuff. Man,if I break anything I'll be out for the season. I'm tapped. But hey...it's a Chevy...it ain't gonna break! :shock:
Zipper,I ran 4.56 gears this past season because I put a plate on the car with the idea of spraying my way to the 5.95 index. It ended up that I never touched the button. Those 4.56's took my 60' from 1.42-1.45 down to a 1.6-1.65. Of course,I'm pulling timing out on every pass trying to run the 6.95 index,but it still killed my short time. I'm thinking that the slow 60' couldnt be helping my reactions time either. Takes soooo long for the car to move!
I really prefer running on foot brake,but its hard to be competitive when 90% of the field runs t-brakes. EVERY round I lost last season was due to getting treed. And the biggest margin was 0.0300 sec. , so Im right there on them. Hoping going back to the 5.14s will help jump off the line a bit faster.
And I know what you mean about affording stuff. Man,if I break anything I'll be out for the season. I'm tapped. But hey...it's a Chevy...it ain't gonna break! :shock:
03-03-2012, 11:36 AM
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need a cam
I was taking timing out to to keep over 6.40 with my home built 496.
I used a timer on my delay box hooked up to a msd retard box and took out 10 degrees after my shift point for 3 seconds and then went back to full timing. It left good and finished good. Almost sounded like a shot of nitrous when it came back to life at the end.
Also had a TOO big duration cam in it to slow it down. 284/292 duration @ .050" lift.
And the 1.75" restrictor plate under the 1050 carbie. At 3200#
I used a timer on my delay box hooked up to a msd retard box and took out 10 degrees after my shift point for 3 seconds and then went back to full timing. It left good and finished good. Almost sounded like a shot of nitrous when it came back to life at the end.
Also had a TOO big duration cam in it to slow it down. 284/292 duration @ .050" lift.
And the 1.75" restrictor plate under the 1050 carbie. At 3200#
03-03-2012, 10:10 PM
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I have a Mallory Hyfire box that pulls timing automatically when the nitrous is activated. I just disabled the solenoids and type in the amount of timing i want to be pulled. As soon as the throttle switch makes it pulls the timing out and im good. Adjusting the timing is as easy as pushing the buttons on the boxes keypad. I love that box. I think I will redo my setup where the timing retard is activated as soon as i shift out of 1st gear,to help retain all my power for the launch. Im trying to improve my 60',leaving with lazy timing definitely wont help :lol:
03-04-2012, 08:36 PM
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I agree,but I like to drive. I dont want a transbrake or an automatic shifter. Not to take away from the guys who use them,thats all good,I just like to drive. I'll lose before I go with a fully automatic car.Its just me. I enjoy the challenge.
03-06-2012, 05:20 AM
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Dynoed a 496 last weak, Canfield 310's, Ported victor, 1050 AEd carb, Howards roller, 268-276, .765-.722. 10.5:1, pump gas, made 790hp at 7100, 646tq at 5200. Heads are obviously worked pretty well.
This engine was a 460, that I had built for the guy years before, that he wanted freshened and turned into a 496. The 460 made 745 and 600 ft/lbs with the same cam. made it a 496, just new, same everything else.
car ran 10.20's at 3800+ pounds, stock suspensin, 70 chevelle, drag radials and exhaust. Take the exhaust off, put some slicks on it, and it would have gone 9's easy. It should go in the 9's now in street trim.
With a point of compression, and a vaccum pump, it would have made 820.
Frank
This engine was a 460, that I had built for the guy years before, that he wanted freshened and turned into a 496. The 460 made 745 and 600 ft/lbs with the same cam. made it a 496, just new, same everything else.
car ran 10.20's at 3800+ pounds, stock suspensin, 70 chevelle, drag radials and exhaust. Take the exhaust off, put some slicks on it, and it would have gone 9's easy. It should go in the 9's now in street trim.
With a point of compression, and a vaccum pump, it would have made 820.
Frank
