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Big block or Small block
#61
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What no one has looked at here is torque values, given a 900HP b/blk and the same 900HP s/blk in a 3400lb car the b/blk will get to the finish line first in almost every case, because getting to the other end requires torque more than HP in a heavy car.
You can get 800 ft.lbs. torque form a 900HP b/blk where as a s/blk will struggle to get 700 ft.lbs..
You would have to spend $10,000.00 min. on parts alone to build 900hp with a s/blk and i believe a b/blk can be built for about $7,500.00 in parts. So the budget minded can go faster cheaper with a b/blk. but it sure is fun to outrun a b/blk (SOMETIMES) with a s/blk. I wouldn't mine having a b/blk but the only parts i have for one is a hilborn stacks injection unit and valve covers.
Zip.
PS> I still like s/blks
You can get 800 ft.lbs. torque form a 900HP b/blk where as a s/blk will struggle to get 700 ft.lbs..
You would have to spend $10,000.00 min. on parts alone to build 900hp with a s/blk and i believe a b/blk can be built for about $7,500.00 in parts. So the budget minded can go faster cheaper with a b/blk. but it sure is fun to outrun a b/blk (SOMETIMES) with a s/blk. I wouldn't mine having a b/blk but the only parts i have for one is a hilborn stacks injection unit and valve covers.
Zip.
PS> I still like s/blks
#63
Originally Posted by woodsman
Brian I show to get 670hp @ the rear wheel on 10.00 ET w/ 136 mph in a 3400# 69 Camaro.
so with the good median of 20% loss of horspower thru the drive line/chassis..this is approx 840 hp at the fly wheel...
also Zipper is right on the TQ,,,this is why they pull so good etc......
ohhh yeah i will agree that i was a Die hard small block man for 37 yrs of my life...all i can say to people is get you a decent running BBC and if SPEED AND POWER is your thing...your gonna love it.....and never look back....if it happned to me...
Now guys we are talking about blower's turbo's etc....you guys realize now that Wes has a 572ci BBC with a blow thru Prochager...i am telling you now its going to be NO JOKE behind that wheel....
Wes intercool that bad boy and you gonna have GODZILLA ON STERIODS.
this has been fun.
Brian
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#64
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Originally Posted by bjuice
Originally Posted by woodsman
Brian I show to get 670hp @ the rear wheel on 10.00 ET w/ 136 mph in a 3400# 69 Camaro.
so with the good median of 20% loss of horspower thru the drive line/chassis..this is approx 840 hp at the fly wheel...
also Zipper is right on the TQ,,,this is why they pull so good etc......
ohhh yeah i will agree that i was a Die hard small block man for 37 yrs of my life...all i can say to people is get you a decent running BBC and if SPEED AND POWER is your thing...your gonna love it.....and never look back....if it happned to me...
Now guys we are talking about blower's turbo's etc....you guys realize now that Wes has a 572ci BBC with a blow thru Prochager...i am telling you now its going to be NO JOKE behind that wheel....
Wes intercool that bad boy and you gonna have GODZILLA ON STERIODS.
this has been fun.
Brian
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Hey Zip I have a conventional headed big block that runs that in a 1950 pound dragster on gasoline 477 ci. I have another one in the car now that runs 4.78 at 145 in the 1/8th. THIN MAY BE IN BUT FAT IS WHERE IT'S AT.
Steve
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#66
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Originally Posted by 3dracing
Hey Zip I have a conventional headed big block that runs that in a 1950 pound dragster on gasoline 477 ci. I have another one in the car now that runs 4.78 at 145 in the 1/8th. THIN MAY BE IN BUT FAT IS WHERE IT'S AT.
Steve
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#67
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Originally Posted by bjuice
Originally Posted by woodsman
Brian I show to get 670hp @ the rear wheel on 10.00 ET w/ 136 mph in a 3400# 69 Camaro.
so with the good median of 20% loss of horspower thru the drive line/chassis..this is approx 840 hp at the fly wheel...
also Zipper is right on the TQ,,,this is why they pull so good etc......
ohhh yeah i will agree that i was a Die hard small block man for 37 yrs of my life...all i can say to people is get you a decent running BBC and if SPEED AND POWER is your thing...your gonna love it.....and never look back....if it happned to me...
Now guys we are talking about blower's turbo's etc....you guys realize now that Wes has a 572ci BBC with a blow thru Prochager...i am telling you now its going to be NO JOKE behind that wheel....
Wes intercool that bad boy and you gonna have GODZILLA ON STERIODS.
this has been fun.
Brian
Brian I am just a small man so I think I am going to take the steriods before I face Godzilla to give me courage to put him in his place. The fastest that I have ever gone is a 5.24 1/8th and I am thinking if I can get Godzilla's power to the ground I am going to go a bit faster. I dont want to sound like a wimp but I think its going to take me awhile just to get back to 5.24 but I will get there.
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OK,.....Who wants to race against my inline 6 with a header and a wicked cam???????? :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :lol: The only thing that matters when you want to argue c.i. is.... does the engine(motor?) make YOU happy?
#69
let me tell you ...there is no whimps running anywhwere close to a 5.24 ET......as a matter of fact the line is Drawn at 6.50 et.......many people can run down to 6.50's with moderate funding and SO-SO know how with tunning Motor/chasiss.......but getting lower than 6.50 the stakes go up..the cost get higher and the tunning gets finer...
the 5.99 mark is the next toughest level to reach,you got to be on your 'A' game you gotta be coming out of the gate hard and your stuff better be putting out 98 to 100% of what it can do....
down to 5.50's and you have to be able to work on your own stuff and know how and why it works and you must stay on top of it..or have a great Pit man..also the cost is not for the average guy..
5.50's to 5.0's...you have spent a LOT OF MONEY,,YOUR STUFF IS TOP OF THE LINE AND YOU ARE ON TOP OF YOUR GAME DRIVING AND EQUIPMENT.
4.90's and below is another world..LARGE Money invloved..a-lot of luck combined with a lot of the above..and HUGE CO-CO NUTS...
Thats my take on it..
anyone else ?
Brian
the 5.99 mark is the next toughest level to reach,you got to be on your 'A' game you gotta be coming out of the gate hard and your stuff better be putting out 98 to 100% of what it can do....
down to 5.50's and you have to be able to work on your own stuff and know how and why it works and you must stay on top of it..or have a great Pit man..also the cost is not for the average guy..
5.50's to 5.0's...you have spent a LOT OF MONEY,,YOUR STUFF IS TOP OF THE LINE AND YOU ARE ON TOP OF YOUR GAME DRIVING AND EQUIPMENT.
4.90's and below is another world..LARGE Money invloved..a-lot of luck combined with a lot of the above..and HUGE CO-CO NUTS...
Thats my take on it..
anyone else ?
Brian
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