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Old 08-22-2007, 04:52 PM
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is this stuff for real i'm thinking about getting the crank treated but does this stuff really work? sounds like magic tricks all an illusion. and even bigger spoof i think is this talk about residual stress that may cause the crank of block to crack
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:39 PM
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Save your money. Snake oil for weekend racers.
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Timmyboy86
is this stuff for real i'm thinking about getting the crank treated but does this stuff really work? sounds like magic tricks all an illusion. and even bigger spoof i think is this talk about residual stress that may cause the crank of block to crack
---LIKE THEY ALWAYS SAY A MAN AND HIS MONEY ARE EASILY PARTED!!!---JUST BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SPEND IT ON---SOME MAGICAL THINGS DO HELP BUT ALOT OF THEM DON'T DO A THING!!!!!
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:16 PM
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I know its fairley pricey so I would say it would be out of reach for the average person on a budget. As far as its strengthen properties??? They say it really does help but I've havent read or heard of much research or facts and figures on it.
Most of the big name racer do use it though and including most cup teams, if you got the money I'd say get it, but like I said I really think its out of touch for most of us. Cp
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:40 PM
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I really don't know.

I do know a large number of engine builders that are big time sucessful as compared to me, but those guys are friends of mine and I know for sure that none of those are using this process. Maybe they just have not tried it yet. Some of those guys are in shops that are huge in size and budgets and that do much R&D just to try stuff and I know of none using the process.

It might actually have merit but I know of none including NHRA Pro Stockers who have tried it.

I have heard of a few Cup Teams trying this but have not heard results. If you are ready to try it now, let me know and I will phone a couple of Nextel Cup guys and see what thier results have shown.

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Old 08-22-2007, 09:57 PM
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There's a shop just up the street from me that does this. Marty Burke Motorsports, aside form doing a few of my racing friends engines and other drive line components, he uses the process on his own engines. I know he has two identically C/SA engines with only difference one being completely cryogenically prepped. The cryo motor is faster. Can't explain the difference other than the cryo.

Here's a brief dicription of the process from his webpage.

www.martyburkemotorsports.com/cryoclass.htm
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:31 PM
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Where is Leonard Texas?
I am in Plano close to Dallas.

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Old 08-23-2007, 10:01 AM
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Ed, I believe Lenard is up around Bonham.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:21 AM
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Ed, I believe Lenard is up around Bonham.
Well, shoot.
We are neighbors then.

Howdy Neighbor

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Old 08-23-2007, 04:11 PM
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I've tried it on heads with a ton of welding, .. like aluminum superstock
or older pro stock, .. it seemed to help keep the seats from moving
around, .. but it's not all it's cracked up to be.
( pun intended )

I see no reason to try it on cranks & blocks, . . .

but I have since gone to the vibratory stress relief and that has shown
positive results.

Curtis
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