Dart Blocks, does anyone know for sure
08-05-2009, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by zipper06
When i ask a few questions about the Chinese knock off, here's the answers that i got.
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The block does come with splayed steel caps. The machine work is done in China. The cam bores tend to run tight by ~ .001". The bore also checks in between 4.124" and 4.125". The decks are fairly square, but will need a clean-up cut to seal with a MLS gasket.
The Little M from Dart is available both nodular caps and billet caps.
This block is better than a Dart SHP block, for less money! It is very close to the Dart Little M (it's patterned after it...).
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The block does come with splayed steel caps. The machine work is done in China. The cam bores tend to run tight by ~ .001". The bore also checks in between 4.124" and 4.125". The decks are fairly square, but will need a clean-up cut to seal with a MLS gasket.
The Little M from Dart is available both nodular caps and billet caps.
This block is better than a Dart SHP block, for less money! It is very close to the Dart Little M (it's patterned after it...).
The block is honed 4.124 and 4.125 I would not say its better until it could be checked for blue print locations. As I have seen some substandard machine work the Chinese have put out. Quality is not one there standards!!!!!!!!!!!
08-05-2009, 02:25 PM
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I have pictures, and the whole ad with specs. It is a ProComp block, and they list it for $1500.00 plus shipping. I could buy it cheaper, but i'm kinda with Carl Hinkson on this one, i wonder about the machining specs and locations. I don't know too many people who have a cam tunnel hone, another big concern would be lifter bore locations.
I don't want to post the ad here on RJ in the engine section, this is not the place to sell parts which i'm not trying too sell anyway. I too would like to see someone probe this blk. As i understand they sent about 10 of the first copies out to engine builders to do the measuring and all checked out o'k for unfinished. They have only been available to the public for about 3 weeks. I will say that the specs. are exactly the same as a Dart Little M and Dart already jumped on them over the Ford copy, because it had Dart on the Main cap bolts, so i'm sure that dart is watching the Chevy blk. also.
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I don't want to post the ad here on RJ in the engine section, this is not the place to sell parts which i'm not trying too sell anyway. I too would like to see someone probe this blk. As i understand they sent about 10 of the first copies out to engine builders to do the measuring and all checked out o'k for unfinished. They have only been available to the public for about 3 weeks. I will say that the specs. are exactly the same as a Dart Little M and Dart already jumped on them over the Ford copy, because it had Dart on the Main cap bolts, so i'm sure that dart is watching the Chevy blk. also.
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08-05-2009, 03:15 PM
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I would just hope that in trying economic times & almost imposible times for any co that does the r & d to develop and manufacture a top quality product here in the USA that we would support them by buying there product.chinese products are based on theft of everybody elses hard work in developing top grade products. I wont buy stolen tools , parts or anything else from a theif on the street. and i sure wont buy knock off engine parts either because in my mind that theft too. JMHO. MIKE
08-05-2009, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
I would just hope that in trying economic times & almost imposible times for any co that does the r & d to develop and manufacture a top quality product here in the USA that we would support them by buying there product.chinese products are based on theft of everybody elses hard work in developing top grade products. I wont buy stolen tools , parts or anything else from a theif on the street. and i sure wont buy knock off engine parts either because in my mind that theft too. JMHO. MIKE
08-05-2009, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
I would just hope that in trying economic times & almost imposible times for any co that does the r & d to develop and manufacture a top quality product here in the USA that we would support them by buying there product.chinese products are based on theft of everybody elses hard work in developing top grade products. I wont buy stolen tools , parts or anything else from a theif on the street. and i sure wont buy knock off engine parts either because in my mind that theft too. JMHO. MIKE
08-05-2009, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gungho
Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
I would just hope that in trying economic times & almost imposible times for any co that does the r & d to develop and manufacture a top quality product here in the USA that we would support them by buying there product.chinese products are based on theft of everybody elses hard work in developing top grade products. I wont buy stolen tools , parts or anything else from a theif on the street. and i sure wont buy knock off engine parts either because in my mind that theft too. JMHO. MIKE
08-06-2009, 06:54 PM
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Problem is that you donot know if you're buying Chinese made products in a lot of cases. Case in point, how many of us run QA1 shocks (a lot i'm sure) a couple months ago i had to buy heavier springs, up from 110's to 130's, dam i opened the package, and right on the plastic bag the spring was incased in was a gold label made in China. Another case in point, i've been a machinist for over 50 yrs., the last 11 1/2 yrs in Ms. We used to make Sharp Microwave plastic injection molds They are based in Memphis. About 5 yrs ago they started buying from China. they could buy a mold for $40,000.00 that we couldn't make for $125,000.00. When the mold came in Sharp shipped them to us for a tuneup, they didn't even unpackage the molds first, it cost them an extra $10,000.00/$15,000.00 to correct the molds, they are still $60,000.00 ahead and their products are made in the USA.
That was the reason i started this thread, you just don't really know.Sad but true.
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That was the reason i started this thread, you just don't really know.Sad but true.
Zip.
08-06-2009, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by montecarlo84
China must have factories on every corner.
like zip says just look it's made in china
like zip says just look it's made in china