What's faster stick or automatic cars
#11
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Originally Posted by olds48
There's probably something to that.But MAN,when you're used to running a forward pattern Z-gate and swap over to a Rev pattern Q-stick.IT SUCKS TO GET USED TO
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Originally Posted by wfge
what is the point\purpose of a reverse pattern automatic?
On Vince's point (quicker) there's not much difference in weight with a PG and a 5 speed with all the extra heavy bell housing and heavy fly wheels with small inch motors etc..
The PG will 60' better in most cases due to the torque producing converter and is a lot more consistent. I personally run an electric shifter valve body tied to the MSD 2 step and never miss a shift and yes i have to push the trans brake button to back up, but that not a big deal.
Other point on a 5 speed you're smacking the driveline 5 times each pass, while with a PG with transbrake you're only smacking it 1 time leaving the line.
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Good information here guys. I know your combo does mean alot when you running stick or auto. I will tell you one thing though the year before last when I was waiting to buy a Jerico I ran a reverse valve body T400 with a trans brake in my 67 Camaro with a 5500 rpm stall and 456 gears. I left around 4600 rpm on the brake. Best ET was 11.07 123mph
60ft 1.51 best.
Last year I put the Jerico 4speed in with a 19lb. aluminum flywheel and 488 gears. Best ET 10.40 128mph 60 ft best 1.38. I had the exact same motor and tuned it the same way. With my set up on the motor it liked the Jerico better than the T400. This is the only comparison I have cause I always run sticks. Don't get me wrong now the automatics leave awesome with a brake.
Now pro stock and alot of other guys run clutchless trans which I thing is even quicker and you could pick up a couple hundreds on ET.
I always heard the converters slow you down alittle.
60ft 1.51 best.
Last year I put the Jerico 4speed in with a 19lb. aluminum flywheel and 488 gears. Best ET 10.40 128mph 60 ft best 1.38. I had the exact same motor and tuned it the same way. With my set up on the motor it liked the Jerico better than the T400. This is the only comparison I have cause I always run sticks. Don't get me wrong now the automatics leave awesome with a brake.
Now pro stock and alot of other guys run clutchless trans which I thing is even quicker and you could pick up a couple hundreds on ET.
I always heard the converters slow you down alittle.
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Originally Posted by olds48
Tod74.I want one soooo bad.Just don't want to get ribbed by buddies who make fun of "remote control" cars.One of these days though.........
PS. If I do end up getting into the 10s next sunmmer, I will have the worlds fastest transverse (sideways) mounted fiero, 30lb steel flywheel, with your help.
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Originally Posted by qtrmile2
Good information here guys. I know your combo does mean alot when you running stick or auto. I will tell you one thing though the year before last when I was waiting to buy a Jerico I ran a reverse valve body T400 with a trans brake in my 67 Camaro with a 5500 rpm stall and 456 gears. I left around 4600 rpm on the brake. Best ET was 11.07 123mph
60ft 1.51 best.
Last year I put the Jerico 4speed in with a 19lb. aluminum flywheel and 488 gears. Best ET 10.40 128mph 60 ft best 1.38. I had the exact same motor and tuned it the same way. With my set up on the motor it liked the Jerico better than the T400. This is the only comparison I have cause I always run sticks. Don't get me wrong now the automatics leave awesome with a brake.
Now pro stock and alot of other guys run clutchless trans which I thing is even quicker and you could pick up a couple hundreds on ET.
I always heard the converters slow you down alittle.
60ft 1.51 best.
Last year I put the Jerico 4speed in with a 19lb. aluminum flywheel and 488 gears. Best ET 10.40 128mph 60 ft best 1.38. I had the exact same motor and tuned it the same way. With my set up on the motor it liked the Jerico better than the T400. This is the only comparison I have cause I always run sticks. Don't get me wrong now the automatics leave awesome with a brake.
Now pro stock and alot of other guys run clutchless trans which I thing is even quicker and you could pick up a couple hundreds on ET.
I always heard the converters slow you down alittle.
With my 3250lb Malibu (with driver)i have a lot of things wrong, too large cam, not quiet enough gear for the motor size. But with a PG it 60' from 1.41/1.45 with 5500 converter leaving at 4800, without bars it will stand on the bumper and runs 6.52/10.59 at Memphis but will only run 124mph with a 377" motor. It would run better with a 383" and shorter cam.
This yr. i hope to remedy that with the 434" motor with stacks injection, hopefully low 6's and some 9's.
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Originally Posted by v8Fiero
"remote control" cars run a whole lot fatster then no-box cars in bracket racing.
PS. If I do end up getting into the 10s next sunmmer, I will have the worlds fastest transverse (sideways) mounted fiero, 30lb steel flywheel, with your help.
I hope you hit a LOW 10!Can I get your autograph now before you get famous?
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lol, right now theres 3 other people that I know of that are building their fieros to try for the 10s this summer. I am the only manual trans and there is one other sbc otherwise they are trying with 3.8sc motors. there are some real nice fieros that are being built this summer. the rear suspension is the only thing that none of us really know what to do with for drag racing, you can only modify a CV axle/strut suspension so much.