promod138

Fram is Overbuilt???????????? Was that something fram puts on the box?

iowackers

I was a GM mechanic and now I work for John Deere supervising their drivetrain test lab. I researched oil filters for my BAJA boat. It's old, but it still has a big block Chevy. The Fram filters are put together with paper elements and glued together. It would not take very high press. to make one of these filters come apart. Cold startups and thick oil are enemies to this filter. DO NOT USE THEM. THE AC DELCO AND WIX ARE SUPERIOR!!!! USE THEM. IT'S WORTH THE EXTRA MONEY!

Scott

toofazt4u

Thank's for the advice Stan...I am going to pull the fram off My engine as of today...It is just TOO BAD that some''high er up'' at fram cannot see what damage they have done by a simple mistake...With a big company....SATISFACTION BY THE CUSTOMER RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!

SVRE

Well boys, I have used fram filters on a handfull of race engines I buillt with no problems. Until now.

I quit using them becouse of everything i heard, even though I had never had a failure. Well, last week i had a customer call me saying that his oil pressure droped from 55lbs @1100 rpm to 19lbs , and all he did was change the oil and filter. (I sent it out with a wix race filter, he changed to a fram) I told him to change the filter and call me back. He called me back today after installing another wix, and the oil pressure returned to 55lbs.

Im the last person to throw stones......but i will never install another fram oil filter.

Steve

kw89425

i got 1 for you guys. i dont and cant recall ever using fram but i have for as long as i can recall been using wix. i use wix on my drag car pickup and the kicker my semi. the abuse my cat holds almost 70 psi at hwy speed which is almost all day long almost every day and if its hot or really cold never gets shut off till i get home. this motor had just under 2 million miles on it when i sold the truck. i only use wix for oil fuel and water with 9 gallons of rotella and 1 gallon of lucas changing the oil every 10,000 miles. i know its not the same as a drag racing motor but still thats alot of miles and alot of hours.

fram? whats a fram?

superbadass532

WELL........... I went to court and made my case. Fram showed up with a big shot lawyer and their so called specialist that said he had every degree in the world! Anyway I lost the case! The best part was that the judge said at the end of the trial that if he was going to rule on the case based on his "heart" he would have ruled for me! Then he said because he has to rule based on how well the case was presented he said he would have to rule in favor of FRAM???!!! I guess I could have spent $ 1000.00 or more and brought an attorney with me but then that wouldn't have guaranteed a win for me and then I would have been out a bunch more $$$$$ that I really don't have. One thing that really made me feel good was when we first went to the frt of the court room the judge asked me if I had an attorney with me ? I said no! He then said he thinks it would be better for me if I had one and asked if I would like a continuence so that I can get a lawyer. I was thinking it over and as I was thinking it over Frams attorney told the judge that they have already spent the amount I was asking for just coming down from the Cleveland ohio area and spending the night. Boy it felt great knowing that they had to spend some money on this whole deal!! One more thing when I was leaving the court room I looked back at the judge and said your honor do yourself a favor and don't use a Fram filter on your car! Whats next? I don't really know maybe a class action law suit? Maybe? Or just keep this forum going so that we can let as many people know about these Crappy FRAM filters as we can!!!!!!
Thanks everyone

Stan

fla1976

Just cleaned the garage a little bit. Threw 5 new Fram filters in the trash where they belong. Funny how the junk collects.

TheYellaBrick

Need to start a new competition for car shows and other car related events. FRAM TOSSING ! Either by arm or by launcher.
Work it into a charity event for our military families.
Gads would Fram's lawyers have a herd of cows or what ?!?! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

SVRE

THATS the part that is bullshit. Funny how things work.

TheRabbit

I guess we should have all pitched in and help get you an lawer. To bad a laywer hasn't had the same bad experience we did with fram!!!!