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Old 04-22-2010, 05:45 AM
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I just had a Manley timing chain break and it was 18 months old. I called them and tried to get them to replace it and the 11 valves it bent and the gaskets to fix it since the heads and intake had to come off and they just laughed. I guess that makes them junk also.
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Old 04-22-2010, 08:16 AM
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John, I sounded like a jerk to you... I am sorry. I am so tired of us giving our hard earned money overseas... makes me think the companies here in the USA should try harder to retain buisness & keep it here. I got this e-mail this morning. I like this concept:

Please read. This is important!!

One Light Bulb at a Time

A physics teacher in high school, once told the students that while one
grasshopper on the railroad tracks wouldn't slow a train very much, a
billion of them would. With that thought in mind, read the following,
obviously written by a good American . . .

Good idea .. . . One light bulb at a time . . .

Check this out. I can verify this because I was in Lowes the other day for
some reason and just for the heck of it I was looking at the hose
attachments. They were all made in China. The next day I was in Ace
Hardware and just for the heck of it I checked the hose attachments there.
They were made in USA. Start looking . . .

In our current economic situation, every little thing we buy or do
affect's someone else - even their job. So, after reading this email, I
think this lady is on the right track. Let's get behind her!

My grandson likes Hershey's candy. I noticed, though, that it is marked
made in Mexico now. I do not buy it any more.

My favorite toothpaste Colgate is made in Mexico . . . now I have switched
to Crest. You have to read the labels on everything. . .

This past weekend I was at Kroger. I needed 60W light bulbs and Bounce
dryer sheets. I was in the light bulb aisle, and right next to the GE
brand I normally buy was an off-brand labeled, "Everyday Value." I picked
up both types of bulbs and compared the stats - they were the same except
for the price.
The GE bulbs were more money than the Everyday Value brand but the thing
that surprised me the most was the fact that GE was made in MEXICO and the
Everyday Value brand was made in - get ready for this - the USA in a
company in Cleveland, Ohio.

So throw out the myth that you cannot find products you use everyday that
are made right here. . .

So on to another aisle - Bounce Dryer Sheets. Yep, you guessed it, Bounce
cost more money and is made in Canada. The Everyday Value brand was less
money and MADE IN THE USA! I did laundry yesterday and the dryer sheets
performed just like the Bounce Free I have been using for years and at
almost half the price!

My challenge to you is to start reading the labels when you shop for
everyday things and see what you can find that is made in the USA - the
job you save may be your own or your neighbors!

If you accept the challenge, pass this on to others in your address book
so we can all start buying American, one light bulb at a time! Stop buying
from overseas companies!

(We should have awakened a decade ago)
Let's get with the program and help our fellow Americans keep their jobs
and create more jobs here in the U. S. A.

I Passed this on........ Will you???????
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Old 04-22-2010, 09:02 AM
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Good post scooter.....BRAVO!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Old 04-22-2010, 10:25 AM
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Not to change the focus on the pumps/filler necks. But about 6 mos. ago i noticed a puddle of oil under one of my generic coil over shocks, if i remember correctly they came with the 4 link system from Alston. I had purchased a set of QA1's for my prostreet Sonoma, but with 110 springs. I had not mounted the shocks yet, so i decide to use them on the Malibu (same length), but i had to order a set of 130 lb springs, imagine my surprise when i opened the box, the plastic bag the springs were packaged in had a label on each bag MADE IN CHINA. Now the original shocks and springs had been repackaged and didn't have these labels, go figure.

QA1's one of the most popular brand shocks around.

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Old 04-22-2010, 04:03 PM
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Rigsby, you have no reason to apologize to me. Everyone has as opinion.

I'm not butthurt at all and I believe that what I said does in fact apply in a way. Granted, it doesn't directly relate to CSR and their products, and I could have worded it a bit differently, but in my opinion, it applies to the current attitude of much of our countries population. It's kinda that Walmart attitude. Bitch and you'll get your way, right or wrong. Give'em what they want and they'll shut up. I just don't think it's right, that's all........it may be more profitable for businesses, but profit doesn't make it right. There is a difference between service and servitude.

For the record, I highly respect David's opinion on most things. I've asked for, recieved, and heeded his advice a few times. He's obviously an experienced racer that know's his stuff. However I don't always agree with him and don't expect anyone to agree with me.

I recieved the "One light bulb at a time" in an email a while back and did pass it on. Very cool idea....

On that note, I'm gonna shut the heck up, go out in the garage and work on my car. It doesn't expect any more that a steady diet of dead dinosaurs to make sweet music.

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Old 04-22-2010, 04:22 PM
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Yeah John, I get what you are saying. My theory is largely a mathematical & monetary based buisness principal. In the end, it is figured into the cost of doing buisness which is non-emotional & really not much like yesterdays loyalty. In the old days, people were different. So I do appreciate where you are coming from. On the manufacturing side, I think we have lost some pride too. There are warranties such as Snap On... it is life, quality is there, you will not hear "sorry, I can just sell you a new one at full price"... "just bend over for me real quick". Really you & I are complaining about a similar thing here. I think if a manufacturer makes something that potentially fails, they ought to stand behind it the same way they do their country. At my company, we put an American Flag on it & want you to know where it comes from. On the flip side, we make mistakes too. So- it comes down to how we address them. Sure can't please everyone, but do our best. I get disappointed when I hear of a USA manufacturer who lets down a dealer or consumer.... there are so few now. Scoot
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Old 04-22-2010, 08:19 PM
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Well,boys and girls, It all boils down to a loss in American pride. When our 'president' is burning through OUR money to apologize to the rest of the 'world' for America's 'attitude', well the old saying " Tell a lie enough times and people will start believing it" takes effect.
America LIVES and PROSPERS because of American small businesses. Small businesses KNOW that how they handle consumer relations is what makes or breaks them. Unfortunately there ARE a few bad apples out there. They won't be around very much longer in an economic scene like we are in now.
Treat your customers as though your life depends on it......
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