Paul Ryan's speech for those who missed it....
08-30-2012, 04:50 PM
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Paul Ryan's speech for those who missed it....
08-30-2012, 07:05 PM
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i dont usually post on political stuff but for some reason (maybe age) ive been watching alot of the political debates ect and to tell ya the truth i think either way we are all f@#$ed but that is my opinion romney will make the rich richer and continue to out source us jobs like he does with his own companies and the there obama nuff said so imo we are danged if we do danged if we dont
08-31-2012, 03:00 PM
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A new administration that understands money/fiscal responsibility, (Romney is a buisness man; like him or or not) is a damn good start to the multiple problems we have uncured since Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, & Napalatono, etc... & all the others that make up the FREAK SHOW that promoted "Hope & Change"... we are BROKE... less than broke.
Five questions:
1. Have you paid less for fuel since Obama was elected or more? I have paid more. In fact, it is the most it has ever been for 4 years.
2. Have you paid less in taxes since he has been elected or more? I have paid more (37 to 38%). Some time after he was elected, the gvt has required that our state remove 28% from any employee who makes commission as a primary income... goes straight to the gvt... my employer is required to take this tax out prior to removing anything else they take.
3. Have you paid more or less for healthcare since Obama has been elected? I have paid more. I am preparing to get BENT OVER if he is elected again when they pass Obama care (which Obama said we would not be taxed for; all lies)
4. Has our national deficit shown any signs of going down since Obama was elected or more? He has over 5 TRILLION he has tacked on in his sovereign rain as the HOLY ONE... yep we are way less than BROKE as a country.
5. Jobs- is our unemployment rate higher or lower since his has been President? I believe you know the answer.
These are just facts. Nothing to debate. This is all without even mentioning that Obama is a socialist who does not really care much for the American Spirit or how we have become this great nation. Combine that with our grandchildren being leveraged financially for years to come, stripped of different rights, etc... I feel like I owe them a fight.
Romney is a buisness man. He understands buisness. Obama understands bringing us into debt more goes along with minimizing our strength as a country... he does not want us to prosper more than any other country... it is a part of his plan to take us down to a "Global" level.
Romney may not be your profile for a choice; but he actually will bring some fiscal buisness sense to our country.... WE ARE LESS THAN BROKEN. My point is that my dog could probably lead this country better than Obama right now.
Five questions:
1. Have you paid less for fuel since Obama was elected or more? I have paid more. In fact, it is the most it has ever been for 4 years.
2. Have you paid less in taxes since he has been elected or more? I have paid more (37 to 38%). Some time after he was elected, the gvt has required that our state remove 28% from any employee who makes commission as a primary income... goes straight to the gvt... my employer is required to take this tax out prior to removing anything else they take.
3. Have you paid more or less for healthcare since Obama has been elected? I have paid more. I am preparing to get BENT OVER if he is elected again when they pass Obama care (which Obama said we would not be taxed for; all lies)
4. Has our national deficit shown any signs of going down since Obama was elected or more? He has over 5 TRILLION he has tacked on in his sovereign rain as the HOLY ONE... yep we are way less than BROKE as a country.
5. Jobs- is our unemployment rate higher or lower since his has been President? I believe you know the answer.
These are just facts. Nothing to debate. This is all without even mentioning that Obama is a socialist who does not really care much for the American Spirit or how we have become this great nation. Combine that with our grandchildren being leveraged financially for years to come, stripped of different rights, etc... I feel like I owe them a fight.
Romney is a buisness man. He understands buisness. Obama understands bringing us into debt more goes along with minimizing our strength as a country... he does not want us to prosper more than any other country... it is a part of his plan to take us down to a "Global" level.
Romney may not be your profile for a choice; but he actually will bring some fiscal buisness sense to our country.... WE ARE LESS THAN BROKEN. My point is that my dog could probably lead this country better than Obama right now.
09-04-2012, 06:07 AM
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I'm gonna stick my nose in here and correct a mistaken notion, probably gained by watching one two many of Obama's/Axelrod's 30 second sound bites . . .
While Romney has about as much charisma as a library full of statistics, he didn't make money by "Closing and Bankrupting" businesses. Bain Capital was a "Venture Investment Company" who went in and invested in businesses and gave them the capital needed to grow into successful corporations. Most of the businesses that Bain assisted are still functioning and successful, Staples and Sports Authority being just two of many. (although in this economic climate, how much longer might be debatable)
Those that failed, generally failed after being stood up financially, sold to other investment companies and then mismanaged into bankruptcy. And, Bain did have their number of failures also. Not all of those companies they invested in were good ideas or financially viable . .
Before jumping off into the bog of rumor and negative campaigning, go to "Bain Capital, the history of" and get the facts . .
On the "Rich get Richer" . . Hell yes they do, why else would they invest in businesses and companies that put people to work? The Liberals tell you that Romney paid only 14% on his income last year, but that 14% came to a bottom line that was more than the total incomes of all who have posted here (Unless one of you is a Multimillionare). And we won't talk about the taxes the Corporations he gets his income from pays . . Nor the jobs created by those businesses.
If you take 100% of the money the top 1% make in income, you won't get enough revenue to pay for the operation of the Federal Government for five days . . . So that piece of class warfare is pure bullshit.
Federal revenue comes from a working (and spending) middle class, but you can only tax them so much. We cannot afford to give all of those who choose not to work (or can't) a "Middle Class Standard of Living", and we cannot afford to give 30 million more people in this country free medical care at the expense of those who paid for it and will receive less . .
And that's just a start on the things this country cannot afford. We cannot continue to borrow money from China, but worse (and more) we cannot continue to borrow money from our great grandchildren. In the last two years, the Obama Administration and Ben Bernanke have borrowed six times as much money from the treasury department than they have from China (By continuing to print dollars) which your kids, grand kids and their kids will have to pay back . . This is the nightmare your current administration and Congress is creating for the country . . .
So while Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan aren't the most charismatic people in the world, they can add and subtract, something neither Obama or the current Congress seem to be able to do . . .
While Romney has about as much charisma as a library full of statistics, he didn't make money by "Closing and Bankrupting" businesses. Bain Capital was a "Venture Investment Company" who went in and invested in businesses and gave them the capital needed to grow into successful corporations. Most of the businesses that Bain assisted are still functioning and successful, Staples and Sports Authority being just two of many. (although in this economic climate, how much longer might be debatable)
Those that failed, generally failed after being stood up financially, sold to other investment companies and then mismanaged into bankruptcy. And, Bain did have their number of failures also. Not all of those companies they invested in were good ideas or financially viable . .
Before jumping off into the bog of rumor and negative campaigning, go to "Bain Capital, the history of" and get the facts . .
On the "Rich get Richer" . . Hell yes they do, why else would they invest in businesses and companies that put people to work? The Liberals tell you that Romney paid only 14% on his income last year, but that 14% came to a bottom line that was more than the total incomes of all who have posted here (Unless one of you is a Multimillionare). And we won't talk about the taxes the Corporations he gets his income from pays . . Nor the jobs created by those businesses.
If you take 100% of the money the top 1% make in income, you won't get enough revenue to pay for the operation of the Federal Government for five days . . . So that piece of class warfare is pure bullshit.
Federal revenue comes from a working (and spending) middle class, but you can only tax them so much. We cannot afford to give all of those who choose not to work (or can't) a "Middle Class Standard of Living", and we cannot afford to give 30 million more people in this country free medical care at the expense of those who paid for it and will receive less . .
And that's just a start on the things this country cannot afford. We cannot continue to borrow money from China, but worse (and more) we cannot continue to borrow money from our great grandchildren. In the last two years, the Obama Administration and Ben Bernanke have borrowed six times as much money from the treasury department than they have from China (By continuing to print dollars) which your kids, grand kids and their kids will have to pay back . . This is the nightmare your current administration and Congress is creating for the country . . .
So while Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan aren't the most charismatic people in the world, they can add and subtract, something neither Obama or the current Congress seem to be able to do . . .
09-05-2012, 06:21 AM
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And I might add, where are those "Jobs" that the Democrats are beating their chests about at their convention? They speak of 4 million plus jobs that "They" (or Obama) "created" in the last 4 years, but most of the "Renewable Energy" jobs were created by the stimulus and have now gone bankrupt and laid off anyone who they hired. In November of 2008 unemployment was 6.9%, teetering on 7%. Once Obama was elected unemployment went up to 8%+ and has been there ever since. This morning, as a matter of fact, at 8.2%, according to Gallup.
It makes one ask, "What Recovery?" when the subject is brought up by either side . . . There has been no recovery. Recovery, when spoken of by a Politician, is a "Bullshit" word, something to make you think that it's getting better . . It isn't . . It's getting worse.
It makes one ask, "What Recovery?" when the subject is brought up by either side . . . There has been no recovery. Recovery, when spoken of by a Politician, is a "Bullshit" word, something to make you think that it's getting better . . It isn't . . It's getting worse.
