Fluidyne Cross Flow - 16 AN - Radiator - heat probs
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Fluidyne Cross Flow - 16 AN - Radiator - heat probs
Any help is greatly appreciated. :shock:
I purchased this radiator brand new in box - It's a 16 AN/cross flow Double Pass - 3" (2 row) aluminum Fluidyne.
Engine is a 1968 427 BBC ~550 Hp - in a 2200 lb. 4 speed manual trans car.
I am running the AN fittings direct from the front 2 ports of my intake manifold. I have 2 electric fans (pull thru) and a very air tight shroud as well. My temps are ridiculous - after 5 mins of driving - 220 - 240 deg.
I don't have any restriction (slowing the water flow) - as would be there w/ a thermostat, have tried the fans on both sides (push & pull). Have tried w/ and w/o the elbow bypass hose coming off the top of the water pump to the intake - same prob.
I know the motor is jetted properly
I know the heads are tight (not leaking thru head gaskets anywhere)
I know the timing is right
heres a shot of the radiator:
here's a shot of my application:
Any suggestions would be great...
oh.. and am running the temp sender off the passenger side center of the head.
I purchased this radiator brand new in box - It's a 16 AN/cross flow Double Pass - 3" (2 row) aluminum Fluidyne.
Engine is a 1968 427 BBC ~550 Hp - in a 2200 lb. 4 speed manual trans car.
I am running the AN fittings direct from the front 2 ports of my intake manifold. I have 2 electric fans (pull thru) and a very air tight shroud as well. My temps are ridiculous - after 5 mins of driving - 220 - 240 deg.
I don't have any restriction (slowing the water flow) - as would be there w/ a thermostat, have tried the fans on both sides (push & pull). Have tried w/ and w/o the elbow bypass hose coming off the top of the water pump to the intake - same prob.
I know the motor is jetted properly
I know the heads are tight (not leaking thru head gaskets anywhere)
I know the timing is right
heres a shot of the radiator:
here's a shot of my application:
Any suggestions would be great...
oh.. and am running the temp sender off the passenger side center of the head.
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Originally Posted by DirkaDirka
Have you tried to switch the 2 hoses coming from the radiator?? They might be on backwards and you could be pulling the hot water from the top and not the bottom. JMO
I appreciate your input - keep em comin tho' - Thanks
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You say after 5 mins. of driving it gets hot. How hot does it get if you let it idle? Does it over heat? Reason I ask this is I am wondering, when you start driving and get the RPMs up the coolant is circulating too fast and not staying in the radiator long enough to cool down?
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Originally Posted by TS1955
You say after 5 mins. of driving it gets hot. How hot does it get if you let it idle? Does it over heat? Reason I ask this is I am wondering, when you start driving and get the RPMs up the coolant is circulating too fast and not staying in the radiator long enough to cool down?
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I'm thinking you need to put some restrictors in the 2 top hoses, such as you would if you had a thermastat or restrictors in the return to the radiator. i run a washer and restrict the flow to 1/2" volume return with a thermastat housing. In other words the water is not staying in the radiator long enough to cool down, it will never run cool. You need to slow down the flow so the radiator and fans can do their job.
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Originally Posted by TS1955
You say after 5 mins. of driving it gets hot. How hot does it get if you let it idle? Does it over heat? Reason I ask this is I am wondering, when you start driving and get the RPMs up the coolant is circulating too fast and not staying in the radiator long enough to cool down?
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Am thinking you may be right with restricting the flow :?: , but the hose dia is only 1/2" ID coming off the intake (X2 hoses) - the ID of the steel braided top hoses I mean.
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Originally Posted by DirkaDirka
Originally Posted by TS1955
You say after 5 mins. of driving it gets hot. How hot does it get if you let it idle? Does it over heat? Reason I ask this is I am wondering, when you start driving and get the RPMs up the coolant is circulating too fast and not staying in the radiator long enough to cool down?
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Originally Posted by TS1955
You say after 5 mins. of driving it gets hot. How hot does it get if you let it idle? Does it over heat?
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I will say - as soon as I start increasing the RPM - it'll slow down in it's climbing the temp. NOT stop - just slow down a bit - may take 25 - 30 seconds to go from 200 to 235 (vs. 15-20 secs)
Maybe I'll just block one of the 2 hoses off :?: and see what that does.
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Are you running the pullies that in your show off section pics? Looks like a really small crank pulley and a really big pump pulley. The pump may be turning waaaay too slow.....just a thought
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