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    bird or terminator or carb on gas ??????

    i run a 582 bbc 15 to 1 rfd edelbrock 24 in 1900 lb dragster i've used the bird injection in the past on a smaller 540 steel headed bbc but looking at the terminator or carb on gas or back to the hat set up.really having a problem deciding.which would be Faster which whould be more Consistant any info would be great thanks jeff

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    I havea 582 in my dragster, always been a huge APD alky carb fan, got this setup turnkey with a terminator from James Monroe and its deadly.
    A carb will be slower then the injection .05-.10 sometimes more. A 582 conv headed motor is a basic tuneup for the terminator and James would hit the nail on the head from the get go. I know he did a 582 with the rfd heads on it this year from a fellow racer nailed that tune up. www.killerrons.com

    Good luck with whatever you choice, @ 1900lbs that setup should get it.
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    I've ran both and perfer the hat myself. Once your set up it isn't too hard to change a pill,

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    I'm out in left field on this one, if i had the motor i would just have to put this set of 3" Crower stacks with alcohol on it that i have.

    Zip.

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    thanks for all the info. i had the motor out bout 12 passes last year late i put a bone stock 1150 on gas just to break it in at 28 degrees timing it ran 5.04 138 the next pass i put it to 36 degrees it ran 4.91 at 141.67, i tell ya love the rfd heads curtis knows his stuff the motor was just off the trailer on the 12 th pass i wrecked saved the motor i just went thru it put oliver billets in it changed rings bearings all ready to go again.! i just want to put the best induction on it that will use all the motors horsepower thats it built for. i love alky and i think a terminator is going to be the way to go. thanks again jeff

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    another thing i was thinking about is putting a small fogger on it once i get everything figured out but i've run blown alky brfore but never nos. i heard it's not too good or easy to run with alky. any info on this would be great thanks jeff

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    Jeff its actually very easy to run nitrous with the alky, I run a plate system on mine 50 to 300hp setup. Never ran a fogger but the plate is simple, its a alky enriched instead of gas so that makes it easier. Nitrous Express has a good handle on alky setups.

    You'll be mighty suprised in the difference in et between that bone stock 1150 and the terminator. I dyno'd my motor with the terminator but had a 1250 Rupert (motor shops carb) on it first big difference across the board. You should be a 4.70's car easily enough.
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    4.70's would be great i hope to get the motor on the dyno should make some good power i 'm shooting for 1,000 hp . right now back halfing my "new"97 s&w 4-link to bring into the 21st century last years car was an old hardtail. jeff

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    I'd bet you make over 1000hp, mine was what id call a pump gas friendly 582 converted to alky and it made 965 without the vac pump. This winter I changed compression, rod combo and bet it makes 1000.

    Yours with 15:1 comp, the rfd heads, with the right cam with a terminator should go 1050. Mine weighs 1965lbs with me in it 965hp went [email protected], the year before as a hardtail same combo it went [email protected] Converter is key to get them to ET.
    David Lanning
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    i run a bullet cam 864 lift int 800 ext with t&d 1.8/1.7 shafts and a star vac. pump i'd really love to get on a dyno !!!


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