YES- I HAVE ONE OF THE OLD STYLE SCOOPS WITHOUT THE BRACKETS ON THE INSIDE AND DON'T REALY WANT TO WELD ON IT--THANKS FOR CHECKING THINGS OUT FOR ME :lol: :lol: --I WILL PROBABLY DESIGN SOMETHING THAT CLAMPS AROUND THE OUTSIDE EDGE--I AM JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE OLD STYLE DESIGN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE 8) 8) ---THANKS AGAIN AND IF YOU GET ANY IDEAS FOR IT PLEASE LET ME KNOW---LIVELY