ok===i have been a self employed carpenter for over 35 years[had a few tough years but the last few have overrun me completely with work :? ] my main thing in my area is sometimes you have to do it for a little less profit and stay alive then you can get repeat work from alot of people --plus--sad to say but you need to be honest in your deals[alot of crooked contractors of all trades in my area]--plus i do all kinds of remodeling not just new---i have sold alot of parts this year and done alot of trading also--it depends on how firm you stand on your price. as far as the gold diggers you described on trades[TELL THEM TO TAKE A HIKE :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: ] KEEP DEALING GUYS-DON'T LET THE GOVERNMENT WIN THIS ONE!!!! LIVELY