I think it started over political opinions. Then I believe Hilldale came on other threads being obnoxious to the other guys, even saying something concerning hollowayshotrods family, completely out of line. But Hilldale has 80 posts now and I've seen a change in his demeanor. Not so abrasive or obnoxious. He's got two nice cars, one he built from the ground up. Speaking just for me, hell I can forgive and let go, and will try to communicate and see if there's a different side to Hilldale. Who knows maybe a diamond in the rough, maybe not.