wow looks like alot o work ...for someone else.think i'll unload em thanks for the links! i put the same thread on a fiero site ....no response in 5 days,deleted after that !? i guess that tells me what they are worth -not much!! even to fiero owners! Id sooner give em away to a deserving teenager than take a lowball bid from a joker w$$$ in his eyes thanks guys your input is appreciated!!