To ''myfordroars'' First of all did i ever say i was a non horse person? Did i ever say i never haul non live or live load's? You know what it means to assume don't you? How do you know i don't have a horse or horse's i have never said either way, If you want to put them to the test I HAVE CHAIN AND WILL HOOK!! I work at a Dodge dealership and right beside of us is a Ford dealership, about 50 yards away, we talk to Ford tech's at lunch everyday, they have said many of times that the international powerstroke is plain and simple a big piece of CRAP!!! My boss has a horse farm, around 30 horses and he said the most any horse trailer your size + truck is around 16,000 lbs, A guy just traded in a 07 Ford f-350, 4x4,4 door show condition, has had 4 engines in it so far, Tickled to death with his new cummins :!: :!: Enough said :!: Do you even know a injector from a injection pump :?: :?: