In these times, I would think you will find an oppertunity at 20K. I am in mine at about 20K (plus/minus a little). I saw a 69 pro-street here in Oregon the other day w/a BBC (454) for 18K... the guy seems a little desparate, but has advertised it for a few months now. It is an auto... but clean in the pic's in black. They are out there.... good luck. Scooter