Originally Posted by shawnp
Bottom line is neither of you are going to agree on anything. Now my opinion may not be the popular answer here but here it is:
Naylor--- bring the motor back and dyno it at your shop. It makes the 1050 then send him on this way. If it is the 950 he claims, you can fix the issues.
Billy- hate to say it but you seem to be the customer most shops are glad to see leave. You have high expectations on limited budget with that have it now attitude. Nothing wrong with cutting cost but your results are what your budget was. Seeing your reactions and postings, I can see the attitude that Naylor mentioned getting when on the phone with you.
My verdict, no one was scammed. Simply just 2 people that can't do business together, period. It happens. One isn't going to be pleased and the other is done trying. It's a dead issue. Walk away and let it be done.
I will try to answer your questions & keep it short as possible to avoid any confusion.
1. The motor should have been dynoed per the agreement at Naylor's shop. When I contacted him about the problems with the engine that should have been his reply or him offer to have someone else do it at his expense.
2. I have said this before and will say it one more time, I asked Naylor if he could build me an engine that made at least 1100+hp. I DID NOT TELL HIM I WAS ON A BUDGET! I did not force him or ask him to make me a "good deal" he gave me a price to build an 1100+hp engine and I took him up on the price. NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS! I paid him his asking price for the 1100+hp engine. The engine I got from him only makes 947 hp. Instead of trying to work with me to correct the problem all he has done, as you can see from his 2 bogus invoices, is try to scam me further and everyone else with invoices that are completely different.
As per the phone conversations, I asked Jimmy Naylor when I first called him if it would be okay if I taped the phone conversations for my personal use and he said okay that's fine. If someone can tell me how to transfer the audio over to youtube or something similar I will post them on here for everyone to hear and this will straighten everything out.
I am a nice guy & I talk to people like I want to be talked to, but if you show attitude to me, I will show attitude back!!
3. As for it being a dead issue and walking away THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN If it was a deal between 2 individuals that might be the best thing to do, but Naylor Racing Engines/Pro Action Heads is not just a business but a business doing business on here(Racing Junk). If a business advertises/claims any product, they should stand behind that product and make it right. If nothing else comes from this, but it saves another unsuspecting racer from being scammed, then it will not all be in vain.
THERE ARE TO MANY PEOPLE WHO WILL WALK AWAY AND NOT CONTINUE TO FIGHT AND THAT ALLOWS NAYLOR RACING ENGINES/PRO ACTION HEADS & OTHERS LIKE HIM TO CONTINUE TO SCAM PEOPLE.
I have had several people pm me telling me I needed to take this over to Yellow Bullet, there won't be a shortage of people who are willing to help me. I plan to tell my story on every drag racing site I can find.