SUPERBARTMAN

racefan55

I had emailed a response to this person and asked him to bring it forward for the general scammer forum to see and so far he has not done so. The only thing he has done is asked me not to email him. It's ok for him to come on my thread and express his ignorant bs opinions but he don't want to hear a response from me. Go figure!

My first response was in regard to him making statements about my advertising my Chevy 11 as street legal. His opinion was that even though I traded the Chevy 11 as a rolling chassis it would still have to be street legal as I had advertised. Not possible. You can't push a shell of a car, roller down the street and call it street legal. They will arrest you for that. The other thing was that Tom had complained about a couple of minor things on the Chevy 11, holes in the bottom of the firewall. Yes there were where the MSD was mounted. Second problems with the wiring on connection on the headlights and later it became problems with one headlight. This is a 45 year old car and Tom did help some in removing the engine. A 30 minute job took over 2 hrs. beacause of the oil pan on the Chevy 2 would not clear the drag link on the car. It's just the way they are built. I pulled my engine apart and gave Tom the oil pan, oil pump and sending unit that I had paid over $400 for. Yes I gave it to him so his engine instillation would go easier. Tom was real rough with the engine in the small part he played in helping and jammed it several times into the firewall scraping the paint off etc. We could have bumped the headlight wires at this time too. Who knows, its midnight on a dark cold rainy night. I had been working in my garage all day and now half the night because Tom chose to come at night instead of the next day as we had agreed. I could have sent him back and next time a scammer wants to come in the middle of the night, I will.

I conclude that a rolling chassis, shell can never be considered street legal.

My ad and contract was altered when Tom agreed to accept the Chevy 2 not as I had advertised it but as a shell with only the radiator and driveshaft and headers to go with the shell. That was all he requested. The trans. was origionally part of the deal but I payed Tom $200 cash for it and gave him a more streetable converter to replace the one in the car.

The Chevy 11 was in street legal conditon as my ad stated prior to Tom altering my contract ad and and taking a roller, (shell). It would have remained in street legal cond. as I had advertised had I sold or traded the car whole! Tom did try to trade me an old worn out 350 engine to replace the $10000 engine I had in the car. I told him my engine alone was worth more than his tractor and NO.

The second message was that racefan55 messaged me not to email him. My response was and is that he came onto my thread uninvited and expressed his ignorant opinions then basically he would hear from me. I basically told him to stay off If he did not want to hear from me. It is easy for him to sit back and express his bs opinions when I was the one who got scammed and would have to pay the expense to repair the tractor.

By the bay Tom kept rambling that I had the tractor for 2 days before i contated him. Not true. Tom left my house after 1 AM in the morning Sun. and would get home around 6 or 7. I don't work on Sun. but I did start the tractor and thought I could hear a noise in the trans. To be shure I later took the tractor for a little drive on the asphalt in front of my house. The tractor would not go in 4 wheel drive as the lever was jammed in and would not move. Once on the asphalt and in high gear the trans. began to scream like a bad ring and pinion. Driving a tractor on asphalt or concrete is the only way to test them when yous suspect a problem. Driving them in the grass will only cushion and absorb some of the noise when there is a problem. I have owned and operated tractors and equipment most of my adult life. I am retired but still do most of my repair on them and work alone. When it becomes physicall impossible I have to farm it out as i have here. I didn't call Tom on Sun. as I told him, out of courtesy and the fact that I knew that he and his brother in law Johnny wouldn't get home until early Sun. morning and would probably be sleeping most of the day. Tom won't answer his phone most of the time anyway. I also decided I would get a professional opinion on the problem before I called Tom. Mon. morning early I loaded the tractor and took it to a dealer about 30 mile away. Two tractor mechanics tried to get it in 4 wheel drive and couldn't . They road tested it in their parking lot and heard the loud screaming noise. They concluded that it could be a bad ring and pinion and that they would have to pull the tractor apart and that it could be a broken trans. also. They would not know or could they give me a price to fix it until they could break it apart. They did indicate that it would be very expensive as they get $40 each and hour for their labor. It would be 2 weeks before they could even take it in and check it out for repair. I returned home and it was around noon or a little after when I called Tom. I told him I did not call him Sun. because I knew he would be sleeping all day and I wanted to get the tractor checked out by a professional before calling He stated that he did not know anything was wrong with the tractor and that he had told me he did not know much about tractors. I told him I was going to get another opinion and wanted him to cover the repair. He never said no but he never agreed either. I figured he was waiting to hear what the problem was. I didn't mention his scamming or fraudlent ad. I was trying to give him a chance to come clean and cover the repair and i would probably just let the rest go.

Bottom line, it is now 3 weeks later and the tractor is still in the shop being repaired. Their conclusion by the wear on the trans shaft is that the tractor has been broken for some time, operation of the tractor had continued under these broken conditions and that much wear would take a long time as the trans. shafts and gears were incased in oil. and under pressure. Presently the bill is $1055 and not counting any of the expense I concurred towing the tractor what is now around 100 miles and I haven't picked it up yet. They also stated, the bill may be more if they have to pull the trans. completely dissemble the trans. on the bench to replace the damaged and worn shaft.

I had the tractor for a day and a half before contacting Tom., not 2 as he keeps stating. Either way the time is trivial except that i couldn't get the tractor checked out on Sun.

My whole purpose on being on here is just warn others about this scammer. I know now he is not man or trustworthy enough to cover the expense or admit what he did. They never do. I will pay for the repair of the tractor next week and bring it home.

I will let the (IC3) deal with Tom. You guys keep trading and remember that there are agencies who deal with internet scammers and fraud.

Use them.

Thanks, Bart