I know , my worry was that the negative was for the same wheels that I was looking at...I wasn't on here trying to make the man look bad , I was just hoping someone on here knew him so I could try to buy them , ,,,nopro , do you know him or what . what I stated was about the wheels up for auction. with a negative feedback on same wheels , , thats all...sorry if I offended you or something , if you are not a little bit cautous about buying stuff on the internet , you WILL get took., just a fact ...I did talk to man on ebay mail and he finially sold the wheels after 3 tries , seemed like nice fellow,,,,,,,,,,,,Paul