i got it posted on yellowbullet.com and i have seen good results come from there in cases like this. plus a chargeback is gonna be filed monday morning with the credit card company. as far as paypal goes, they told me because i bought them off of racingjunk and not ebay that they could not help me. l use to love doing paypal because of the ease, but this just made me get a taste of why people down them all the time.