Gentlemen:
I have been following this hateful thread. As I am not particularly well right now, this thread has had a tendency to make me feel worse. However, my very brief drivebys to the forum, have allowed me to watch this thing grow like a large malignant tumor.
So I sucked it up and went back to the beginning on this:
March 2, 2009- Firebird89 posts that the motor advertised as 18 degrees is not- he also mentions he is titled owner on the 89 firebird that WW154 has.
WW154 rebutts FB89's comment and also says in his post " receipt offered but its a drag car".
WW154 posts the receipt pic, its folded and kw89425 notes it was folded and comments that its a lame cover-up.
3/3/09 WW154 admits it a 23 degree motor and stated he was told it was 18 degree engine
[Guys what do you always say about someone who represents an engine as "I was told it was ... You guys junp all over him]
FBird89 posts all his add numbers and the motor is not advertised as an 18 degree motor. WW154 cannot claim that FBird89 told him this as he needed to have the add to buy the car
.[WW154-Who told you it was an 18 degree motor?]
Scooter on this same day you told WW 154-"You are starting to sink dude". [
Guys please keep in mind where you started and where you are now]
Note-Nothing from WW154 for several days when he was instantly responding on 03/03- Why is that do you think?
Chris on March 6, you noted that Wayne had "daresay walked out".
On March 6th Bjuice was also sure that WW154 owed FBird89 $1k and says it.
Something turned everyone's opinion- What was it. I think I know and its pretty interesting but also normal. Keep reading.
Sandy W then points out that FBird89 has a post on Jim Edwards who he bought the car from- FBird rebutts.
Lest you guys think thats an issue-then look up Rosameelpito who posted repeatedly on Mark Huelskamp and now is posting on Sloan's transmissons and is putting up adds-same way both time. Multiple problems with sellers or buyers does not convict a person.
On March 20, KW89425 notes that he cant find WW154s profile- He has been silent for 17 days. At this point the Forum sides with Fbird89.
On May 11, LTrailers comments that he bought a motor from WW154 that had more likely 336 runs then the 36 he (WW154) claimed.
WW154 has been quiet for 2 months.
WW154 shows up on June 10th posting in caps. THE PAGE COUNT WAS 5 ON JUNE 10. Its now 13. It grew by 4 pages in two months and more than 9 in 2 and 1/2 weeks. Does anyone think this is interesting?
WW154 posts his emails on 06/11/09-There is a 08/09/08 comment from Fbird89 to WW noting that he is owed $1k and that he has a WITNESS to the verbal agreement.
WW154 PMs Scooter same day. Scooter confirms this. Note that WW154 who has been away for months is now responding regularly and PM'ing users- pretty smart huh? If you are trying to turn opinion, keep stating your case- while the other side is away.
Scooter is looking for Fbird on June 13th.
However no one asked WW154 where hes been for TWO MONTHS- guys shouldnt we have been curious?
On June 16th Scooter got another pm from WW154 and says he is starting to side with WW154.
Have we forgotten what we have seen to this point? Why has the tide turned?
Did it turn originally because WW154 went silent? and now its turning back because Fbird is silent?
On the 16th Fbird shows up again.
Fbird also points out on 06/16 that WW154 is advertising the car Bill of Sale only no title- technically the title is in dispute-
Is this misleading to not disclose to a new buyer? Guys think about this.
Now the issue of a Lein comes up- In MD when a title has a lein its shown on the title. The leinholder has original; owner has duplicate. When the lein is released you receive the original from the leinholder with a signed lein release. You typically hold the lein release and duplicate title and transfer them to new owner at sale. It is not necessary to go to the DMV to get a new title.
If Fbird's state is similar then is this a real issue or just a perceived one?
Now around this time Fbird loses his cool- That certainly doesnt make him look good. The IRS also comes into the conversation at this point- The ramifications could affect both buyer and seller-but I question whether an Agent would take the call or launch an investigation- I work with the service regularly and I just doubt that this is an issue worthy of even showing up on the thread.
At this point the thread goes back and forth and the Forum users try and broker a deal- one which cracks pretty quickly. So what actually happened?
Well if I wanted to guess I would say there was an interesting social experiment that occurred- WW154 was on the ropes and then he disappeared. He let things
settle- Then he returned after 2 months, on the offensive- and it just so happens that FBird was away and silent- WW154 regained the momentum and put Fbird on the ropes just as he had been- very interesting.
Its a not uncommon phenomena that Janes Thurber described under the term "Poisoning the Well"
So who is right?
Fbird you claim that you had a witness to the deal- get a signed notarized statement that would be evidential in a court of law-post the pic. Pretty simple I think.
My gut has told me from the beginning that Fbird was legit- and I still think he is- just a gut feeling an a thorough read of this thread and the actions of the two parties- an Organizational Behavior and HRM MBA must be worth something and forgive the self promotion
Just wanted to show I am not a crackpot poser
FBird, if I was you, I would post the signed notarized statement and then take the title and turn it into the DMV as you sold the car as a race car and that the title should now be considered salvage. You prove your point, you forgive the $1k, you nuke your adversary and if anyone gets your info off of Carfax and comes to you as last titled owner you get to tell your story.
And BTW, Broadway Title can't legally issue a title to replace a salvage title, so if WW154 went that route and you found out- thats fraud and the DMV will listen unlike the IRS.
Thats all folks.
For those asking how I am doing, worse than I'd like but better than my adversaries would like.
Surgery in a few weeks, and if I dont come out of it less than whole I'll be back with you guys keeping the peace.
Just think about this thread, and to quote Mopar 1968,
JMO
Scorp