Firebird: The Title/Lien story really kinda stinks... I know you think we are all a bunch of "red necks", but most of us are just not that stupid. You want everyone here to believe that you paid off the car & "by your request" & told the bank to keep the lien/bank on the title??? First of all, a branch bank typically does not actually CARRY the title in the bank!!! Second, when a vechile is paid off, the corparate bank hq sends the title to the DMV to be properly transfered/remove lien for the rightful owner. Last, why the hell would a bank want them selves as a lein holder on a title if it was properly paid for????? If i am a bank, I am not interested in confusion & liability down the road.... banks are the king of policy & proceedure too. You story really SUX. Hey, If I am wrong, you can still kiss my A$$ anyways b/c you have a crap attuitude.