Keeping the lien undissolved with the state keeps the car legally bound here. I figured if wayne went home with the car and didn't send me what he agreed to, I had a legal avenue to persue him with. YES--It was a means to hold over his head! Wouldn't you want some sort of pull if a guy owed you a grand? It doesn't really matter as far as the police go though--at least not until he's taken to court. They will not go and force him to turn a car over even though I've got a legal title in my name. I'd have to take him to court first. I have the lien release--how many times do I have to say that. It's signed and filled out by the bank. All the guy needs is this title and bank lien release to get his clean and clear title. My guess is he doesn't want to pay the taxes on the car. He wouldn't have cared about the title if I wouldn't have come on here calling him on the carpet way back in the beggining about falsely advertising the car. I'll send this stuff to BJUICE--I already said that. I haven't seen any response from him either though if he's willing to do this.