The bank simply wont release the lein per my request. The car was paid off before he ever even came and got it. Grand theft charges--think not. Seems to me a good majority of you dimwitted geniuses have nothing better to do than come on here and ad useless comments on a subject you know nothing about. Sorry, I don't have the time or the desire to go back and read all your questions to me---oh well, I actually work. I'm not on trial here, especially to a forum of vultures. And I certainly don't have to answer any questions to try and substantiate myself to you people. If you'd rather take the side of a sidewinder that dodges out on following all the way through with a deal---go for it!!! What's illegal is not paying someone money you agreed on--that's what's illegal so please---go ahead and take it to court here. That would save me from having to come down there to do it. Want the info wayne? The county the transaction took place in? Want the phone # of the courthouse? You want to threaten me with rediculous crap after ramming me on a deal---please follow through.