Scooter, yes Im a Liberal thinker, actually a middle of the road Democrat...i see the rich people on Wall Street getting bonus' after their companies asked for bailouts, after they screwed it up....then no one knows where the hell the money went...Taxes I hate them too, but to make the system go I have to pay my share....that is what the top 1%ers should pay...the regulations and oversite that would have prevented this...were removed....You call it socialism, I call needed regulation...we need Wall Street to be reigned in along with regulation of the banking system...hell these companies are still getting away with stealing my money...credit card fees went up and then started charging anuall fees on no fee cards...I know I work for 1 of the banks that applied for bailout money....that is educated knowledge...I guess my problem is that Obama is not the problem...it has nothing to do with his ancestery, birth certificate, or that he bowed to a foriegn leader as a cultural courtesy...and your right it is not to blame one party or the other because they both got us here...so logically both should help and get us out...but it seems that the Republicans still dont want to play nice....you cant sit there and wish this away...something needs to be done to help and fix it...otherwise the final gulp gulp gulp you will here is the toilet being flushed on all of us.... :shock: :shock: :shock: