thanks guys yall have been a big help this hole job has been a pain in the.........you get the picture......that is one bad s10 pull n them wheels i believe mine would do that if i could just hook it a little better..any advice on that one i have leaf springs some kinda taction bars that go from rearend to the frame under the cab...456 gears 5000 stall 630hp 1.5 60ft 7.17 et 93 mph spins a little taking off have 28tall 10.5 m/t around 3k pounds guesing