Hi robsbird, Thanks for your support! I did get the filter that failed back from Fram. I guess you read the rest of this thread. I did go to court and took the filter with me as well as a new Fram and a Wix both cut apart so I could show the judge. If you get a chance to cut those filters apart do, you will be amazed at the diff in the two! The Fram is a peice of Crap! It looks like its made from carboard. After seeing that I wouldn't run the Fram filter on my lawnmower! It really didn't make any diff the judge would'nt rule in my favor because I did'nt present my case as well. It was small claims court and I thought I would have a better and fare chance because it was small claims , I guess not! The judge did say if it was up to him based on his heart he would have ruled in my favor? Well that sure didn't help me recoup some of the $4-5,000 lose I have because of the FRAM filter failture!