ok the word is out, i havea degree in political science. and thats is exactly why i quit talking politics. because of childish behavier.i found that when peoples arguements run out of steam alot of people will resort to name calling or attacks on the other persons character. i have always had long hair, full beard and both my ears peircied. and a bunch of tattoos.it used to be fun when people saw me, it would throw them for a loop when they found out i was well educated and knew what i was talking about. then the name calling would start. i got older. it aint funny any more now i just want to kick ass so now i dont even discuss politics.usually. so anyone ready for 09 season. by the way thanks guys for your support on the threads with the "other guy" ken