I have a 2003 TTR225. A VERY mild trail bike. It's actually the offroad version of the dual purpose bike. I use it to chase my kids around the woods. I couldn't imagine a 450 race bike. Kinda like you 20 yrs ago it would been a blast. I rarely ride mine and I'm thinking about selling it and buying a 4 wheeler. My wife has a Honda 250 that's alot of fun to ride. My kids have cr125, cr80, and a pw80. A couple of years ago on their first bikes they couldn't keep up with dad, now they wait on me, lol.