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hotrod1994 03-21-2013 10:13 PM

e.t looking for 11's
 
355
gm forged crank
pro comp i beam forged rods
10:1
world products sportsman 2's 200cc runners 2.05 intake 1.6 ex
.562 .584 lift
290° 300° adv durration
259° 269°@ .050
106° lsa
3200-7200 rpm range
victor jr intake
holley 750 dp

th350
3000 stall

4.88 gears
29 tall tire

3700 lbs

7000-7200 max rpm's

looking for high 11's what do ya think and any advise on getting there?
thanks
-logan

fast75vega 03-23-2013 11:27 AM

in a small and light car u should be in the mid 11's... but id still up the converter to like 3500-3800ish

bixblk 03-23-2013 12:26 PM

ET Est
 
JMO
I think high 11's is a stretch, I had a similar SBC in a 85 Monte Carlo, similar weight, less gear, and its best time was 12.86.
Good Luck

bixblk 03-23-2013 12:30 PM

ET Est
 
I thought my Monte would have been a good candidate for a small shot of spray 125/150, so one way to get there would be a small plate of spray.
Again JMO

fast75vega 03-23-2013 12:33 PM

my bro runs a 355 in his vega with eagle rotating assmby and hogged out edelbrock heads and two speed glide/ 4500 stall... 488 gears ... 32in tire... it ran a best of 10.37 in the 1/4 and low 1.30's 60 foot times

hotrod1994 03-24-2013 08:16 AM

yeah im thinking i gotta put the car on a diet.....it a street car as well so how would the 3800 stall work on the street?
thanks-logan

fast75vega 03-24-2013 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by hotrod1994
yeah im thinking i gotta put the car on a diet.....it a street car as well so how would the 3800 stall work on the street?
thanks-logan

i think you should be more worried about running that 488 gear on the street then a 3800 stall.... lol

i ran a 3800 stall in my street camaro but with 411 gears and a turbo 400 trans

hotrod1994 03-24-2013 04:51 PM

i love my 4.88's hahaha i was thinking going 4.11 after a while so i could go farther its 12 miles to town and 3000 rpm at 45 mph but i love them

hold 04-01-2013 08:48 PM

i think u might not b there now depending on ur altitude :cry:

roadkill2 04-02-2013 06:11 AM

Think you're geared too short . . at least for the quarter mile . .

hotrod1994 04-02-2013 06:43 PM

ive almost got the motor together so ill give it a little whle and take it to the track find out what i run and go from there

BEAST477 04-03-2013 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by hotrod1994
i love my 4.88's hahaha i was thinking going 4.11 after a while so i could go farther its 12 miles to town and 3000 rpm at 45 mph but i love them

You almost have your motor together? How does it turn 3000 rpm at 45 mph if it's not together yet? I'm confused.

hotrod1994 04-04-2013 07:35 AM

well the sbc thats in it now turns 3000 at 45 mph the stroke,rod length are the same in this motor so the rpms should relatively close to the same im thinkin......as far as i know everything in the tranny has to spin at the same speed to go 45mph with this motor as well as the one in it now

chevynovaman 04-06-2013 03:23 PM

E.T.
 
MY NOVA RAN 11.80'S TO 12.0'S WITH THE 383, NOT TO BURST UR BUBBLE.... I WOULD SAY YOU WILL RUN A 12.90 IF YOUR LUCKY ON A GOOD DAY..., I DO HAVE A G-TECH IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT IT RUNS... RYAN

fast75vega 04-06-2013 04:03 PM

Re: E.T.
 

Originally Posted by chevynovaman
MY NOVA RAN 11.80'S TO 12.0'S WITH THE 383, NOT TO BURST UR BUBBLE.... I WOULD SAY YOU WILL RUN A 12.90 IF YOUR LUCKY ON A GOOD DAY..., I DO HAVE A G-TECH IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT IT RUNS... RYAN

i disagree.. the guy who built my 383 budget motor i ran in my vega figured it would run 11.20's and it ran 10.60's in the 1/4 mile after a lil tuning and my bro's 355 in his vega runs 10.30's and both are on motor only and a 2 speed glide... really depends on the cars weight and motor setup..cam/timing/heads and gearing ect.

roadkill2 04-07-2013 08:37 AM

Point being, Benchtop Math doesn't do much more than aim you in the right direction.

Take it to the track, see what it does and then use that as your baseline for improvements. It really doesn't matter whether it runs a 14 or a 10 on it's first outing. To use a tired Cliche; "It IS what it IS" . . .

From there you make adjustments . .

hotrod1994 04-07-2013 08:46 AM

well after i get it together and break it in a little bit it'l be going to the track so ill find out then i guess, ive seen the gmpp zz430 383's witch make 430 hp go 11.8 with 4,000 stall and 4.56's so idk it just a guessing game now,im definitely gonna shed some weight of the car tho

roadkill2 04-07-2013 08:59 AM

Probably the only constant I have when talking about Racing Engines is the "Horsepower" thing. Horsepower numbers are good for two things.

Tuning when using a Dynometer, or bullshitting the novices in the bar . .

The numbers we all really care about are 60' time, ET, and numbers of final rounds ran . .

Sometimes MPH comes into play but usually only when qualifying or messing with the other lane in Bracket racing . .

hotrod1994 04-07-2013 08:55 PM

i should be able to pull of a pretty decent 60' it leaves hard now and its only got a mild 350

roadkill2 04-08-2013 06:29 AM

Heh, heh . . Over the years, I have come to the conclusion that the 60' time is, in drag racing, the most important number you can be concerned with. Granted, ET and Top end RPM are numbers you always want to watch, but the 60' time affects everything after the car's first movement. A consistent 60' time will guarantee you a consistent ET and dial in, generally.

And, it's usually the number that's affected by track condition. Of course, if your 60' time is affected by a hot or greasy track, then of course, your overall ET is affected. This is where suspension tuning and tire pressure is really important.

In Brackets (no secret here), a pure 60' time, and the same 660 ET on each pass will generally guarantee perfect split times at the other end . . And this is true whether you run 4's or 14's . .

hotrod1994 04-08-2013 06:25 PM

yeah this is just an estimate but im figuring im pullin a 1.8 60' er so right now


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