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zipper06 10-27-2013 08:47 PM

DUMB Question, maybe?
 
Dos's anyone actually use the E3 spark plugs always advertised on NHRA and NASCAR,
I personally have never heard of anyone using them in a racing engine.

Just Curious.

Zip.

Swiley383 10-28-2013 10:11 AM

Nobody around here that I am aware of.

fla1976 10-28-2013 01:15 PM

I tried them on a SBC 400. It ran better on Autolites for me.

roadkill2 10-29-2013 03:28 PM

Heh, heh . . To be the "Official Spark Plug of the NHRA" requires only money, not quality or even function. They sponsor a year's worth of contingency awards if you wear their decals on your car and have their plugs in your car when you win (or put them in after the fact).

Their rules dictate that you must use their product in order to qualify for the advertised contingency money. Or at least appear to.

TheRabbit 10-29-2013 04:12 PM

Even in this video it doesn't prove anything to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTRy_pVtE1g

Swiley383 10-29-2013 04:28 PM

Remember spilt fire plugs? Didn't they make similar claims.

oldandtired 10-30-2013 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by roadkill2
Heh, heh . . To be the "Official Spark Plug of the NHRA" requires only money, not quality or even function. They sponsor a year's worth of contingency awards if you wear their decals on your car and have their plugs in your car when you win (or put them in after the fact).

Their rules dictate that you must use their product in order to qualify for the advertised contingency money. Or at least appear to.

x2 just like Fram oil filters :D

coloradoracerguy 10-30-2013 11:00 AM

Just more bs and snake oil. Save your money.........Total junk if you ask me. You WILL NOT GET MULTIPLE SPARKS FROM THIS PLUG!!! Multiple sparks are ignition driven, not a function of the plug. While each individual spark might travel a different path, you'll only have ONE SPARK PER COMBUSTION CYCLE. If you're running a MSD CD style ignition, you will have multiple sparks per event, but only until approx 1500 rpm where it starts dropping spark. At approx 2000 rpm it's reduced from four spark events at lower rpm to three, at approx 2500 rpm, it drops to two, and at approximately 3000 it's down to only one spark event per combustion cycle. Hook up an ignition scope sometime and watch, it's very interesting...... As to the plug, just another gimmick that will eventually fade as people learn the truth...

roadkill2 10-30-2013 05:51 PM

You only get a "Multiple Spark" at your plug if it's furnished by your Ignition Source. Even as far as the MSD (Multuple Spark Discharge) goes, I suppose it might help with Ignition, but I don't feel that you need it or that it works as well as advertised. Unless you have bad fuel or literally no gap at your plug, the first arc (what the spark actually is) from the electrode to the ground strap will light yer fire . . Anything after that is more or less, a waste of electricity.

A few years back, I tried a MSD on my Street Rod, a '34 Ford with a Blown SBC in it. I couldn't tell the difference from the old HEI I had on it. Nothing changed, started the same, got the same mileage, drove the same. Probably because if it was timed the same, and nothing was done to the fuel system, the MSD did exactly what the HEI had done before it. Set a fire with the first arc. (Spark)

But spark plugs, by themselves, don't do enough to change much. They're just a device to create an arc inside the Comustion Chamber when it's needed, everytime. High Cylinder pressure and lots of heat use 'em up but I dunno, I don't see a whole lotta difference between one and another in a well tuned Gas or Alky engine. If you have the right heat range, usually, in a race car, you'll just change them because it's a good idea, not because they're worn out.

The only time we change them is when the ground strap gets hard to read . . That's about twice in a season or when we change altitude drastically, and want to see how close to right we are on the tune up.

But, this coming year we changed to VP M 5 so there might be a little more heat than we've been used to. Have to pay attention.

zipper06 11-05-2013 01:28 PM

I'd never buy or use them, i'm pretty much set with NGK or autolite with running alcohol. I can remember many years ago when STP was sponsering INDY cars, there was a pic. taken showing some mechanics pooring STP in the engine and in themsame picture there was s drain pan under the egine catching it as it came out.
I agree with road kill back some yrs ago i tried a vertex mag, i was running a MSD 7 AL, the mag actually slowed dow the car a few houndreds. You only need enough fire to fire the plugs on your application. It's a little different with nitro because it's harder to light and keep lite

Zip.


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