Bad feedback for Carnut 70
 

I saw a 55 Chevy listed for trade on here and I messaged carnut70 if he would be interested in a trade for a nice pro street-strip 69 Camaro I had. The pics of the car lookedd awesome and it said in the ad all it needed was a steering wheel and probably a column for visual reasons. We agreed to trade and I sent some friends of mine to swap cars for me. When they got the car home it was 12 midnight so I looked at it briefly and it was put in the garage. The car is no where near what it was made out to be. The dash was mudded over all along the bottom half sealing in the glovebox and ashtray and heater controls that were still there. Bondo cracking all around the dash, no heater, turn signals, headliner turning loose 3 bolts holding the water pump pulley on and various other little things. I told him I wasn't happy and would like to trade back after I saw the car and he said no but for me to do to someone else what he did to me which I won't do. I've spent a ton of money fixing this car up since I'm stuck with it but I just want to warn people to be very careful when dealing with this guy. I'm upset with my friends for bringing it home to me but it was dusk when they got there and they said they knew I wanted it so they didn't check it over very well and felt rushed when they got there and the car is beautiful on the outside.

Do you have a add number? He doesn't have a profile, Maybe we can help.

2389594. Just look at the car, the caliber would never let you think it needs what it does. He told me he has sold over 43 cars last year and not 1 honor payment. The console is pieced together from a Tahoe and is cracked into 3 pieces. Heck it even had the passenger side valve cover on upside down! When I brought all this to his attention he said I didn't even drive the car and only owned it 2 days so just sell it to somebody else like I did you. The car could never have been driven because the tv cable wasn't even hooked up and the electric fan probe was on the outside of the tubes so it would overheat. Its not just making the deal its whats done after it that makes you the kind of person you are. I'm sorry it took me so long to post about this deal but with traveling for the holidays plus the holidays I haven't been able to get on here as often as I used to.

I sent him a message let's see if he responds.

just had to save this----CARNUT sounds like the typical brand of seller that has come out of the dumps in the last few years 8)

my main concern is you did not go look at the car yourself or give very specific instructions to your friends on checking it carefully[so] you got taken to the cleaners[PICTURES CAN AND DO LIE ALOT !!!!!!!]

ANY PICS OF YOUR CAR YOU TRADED TO THIS FINE SELLER :roll:

BY THE WAY --IF HE BOUGHT AND SOLD OVER 43 CARS LAST YEAR --THE STATE HE LIVES IN MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THE REVUNUE HE HASN'T PAID-OR IS HE REALLY A DEALER???

I AM NO SCAMMER !!!! to respond to this accusation, I told you specifically i only had this car for 2 days, that i took it on trade, that i knew nothing about the car as i havent even gotten the chance to drive it, This is typical that you would post and try and spatter my name here, as far as my "USERNAME" is that not a little presumptuous that you would assume i am what you say, I pnly love cars, and trade as a hobby, i never try and force a trade on anyone, first of all, HE sent his friends,(personally i would never do this), 2nd of all, it was day light... NOT dusk. unless it gets dark at 3pm.. and 3rd, i specifically told you i didnt know anything about the car, that it had descent paint, and that it would need alot to be right... i took the car on trade, and only had it for 2 days.. Its not my fault you jumped the gun and traded without seeing the car for your self.. I did not hide a thing... and ITS NOT MY FAULT YOU DID NOT DO YOUR RESEARCH ON THE CAR ... like i said, i TOLD YOU I JUST GOT THE CAR AND HAVENT EVEN GOT THE CHANCE TO DRIVE IT.. i never once lied to you about anything.... DOES THIS MAKE ME A SCAMMER.. THAT I WAS HONEST, AND I HANDED A CLEAR TITLE WITH THE CAR ??? IF YOU GUYS REALLY THINK THIS SHOULD BE CATEGORIZED AS A SCAM , THEN THIS FORUM IS A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME , AND DOES NOTHING TO HELP THE REAL PEOPLE OOUT THERE WHO ARE SCAMMED OUT OF THERE HARD EARNED MONEY... ONE LAST THING, I HAVE SEVERAL TRADES AND PEOPLE WHO I HAVE DONE MULTIPLE TRADES WITH, AND ANYONE KNOWS THAT WHEN YOU TRADE ALOT, YOU ARE BOUND TO GET A BAD APPLE FROM TIME TO TIME.. ITS JUST THE ODDS OF TRADING ALOT, BUT IF YOU ASK ANYONE ON RACING JUNK WHO I HAVE TRADED WITH, THEY WILL TELL YOU THEY HAD NOT ONE PROBLEM WITH ME... AND SOMETHING ELSE ILL AD, YOU THINK I HAVENT GOTTEN A BAD DEAL???? HAVENT WE ALL, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS, I DO NOT GO SLANDERING THE PERSONS NAME ON THE FORUM JUST BECAUSE I DIDNT DO MY RESEARCH AND CHECK THE CAR OUT,, THE ONLY FAULT OF GETTING A BAD CAR OR DEAL, IS THE PERSON THAT LETS IT HAPPEN CAUSE OF THERE LAZINESS NOT TO GO CHECK THE CAR OUT FOR THEMSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU GUYS ON THE FORUM CAN'T BACK ME UP ON THIS, THERE ARE SOME REAL ISSUES HERE AND BAD JUDGMENT!!! I DO WHAT I SAY I WILL DO, AND ONLY TRY TO BE THE BEST PERSON I CAN BE... WHEN I TOLD YOU I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE CAR.. I HAD ONLY HAD IT FOR "2DAYS" THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE WAITED TILL YOU COME COME LOOK FOR YOURSELF....... I SEE NOTHING MORE TO AD, BUT TO TAKE MY NAME OFF HERE.....

JUST A LITTLE MORE TO ADD.
 

On [2011-11-29 21:21:12] Gimmethakick wrote:
> Check ad 2376938. I love your car. Thanks Wayne



*** YOU KNOW YOU ALSO DID COME TO ME FIRST, I DIDNT PURSUE A TRADE WITH YOUR.... NOT THAT IT REALLY MATTERS, BUT it does make some difference.... And you know , when i have a bad deal, i do not whine about it and go throwing the other persons name around,, i lick my wounds, and move on. especially when the person trades alot and told me they havent had the car but a couple of days..... there was no need for you posting this crap calling me a scammer.... i never once told you anything that wasnt true... i did tell you the car needed quite a bit. that the paint appeared to be good. we all get bad deals when we trade.... the difference is the people that realize this thing happens just move on and try to recover. hell fire, it is a 55 chevy 2 door hard top that runs and the body was pretty dang good on the car, there were no rust on the undercarriage... the car without an interior or dash or whatever is still worth good money!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is just a bunch of garbage that you go post this about me.... this needs to be taken down , and it bothers me that you (lively) would assume that about me when you have never met me, we are all one racing junk for one reason, Because we all LOVE cars, old, fast, new etc..... ive really said all that i need to on this deal, and would expect "THE" people on here to take my side on this one !! its pretty cut and dry.

Re: Bad feedback for Carnut 70
 

I think next time maybe you should go look at the car instead of sending someone else. Lesson learned.

Re: Bad feedback for Carnut 70
 

It seems you were given the chance to do your due diligence , sent a friend to represent you and make the trade...seller didn't restrict access to the car for inspection.....why be mad at the seller?...this is why the public isn't allowed into auctions ....as is ,where is, no garrantee's expressed or implied.....you bought it!

Non-subject! Trade was agreed on

Re: JUST A LITTLE MORE TO ADD.
 

just a simple // for you CARNUT----WHY DO YOU HAVE MULTIPLE ACCOUNT NAMES ??? :oops:

JUST CURIOUS IS ALL :roll:

I only have one username, as far as racing junk site.. when i signed up for the forum part, It asked me for a username.. so i didnt think at the time it would make any difference to use a different name on the forum... Im by no means trying to hide anything or be secretive.. just something i did with not much thought into it.. If i were hiding i wouldnt have came on here to defend myself.. I understand your concern Lively, really dont have a good answer for you other than i just used a different name for the forum when i first signed up. And as far as i know, there isnt an account username on Racing junk classifieds that is prostreet1000.. i may be wrong, but i only have One account for the classified's .. hope that helps

carnut70
 

I have traded with carnut70 several times. He has never lied to me about any of the cars I have gotten from him. No matter what he or anyone else tells me about a car that I am trading for, I always check it out for myself anyway and if I am going to send someone after a car, it would be someone that I know and trust that knows what they are doing and knows what they are looking at. Everybodies opinion of what is nice and what is not nice is different. We all trade on these cars and sometimes we get a bad deal, but it is our responsibility to be sure it is the car we want before we make the deal. Sometimes we trade so fast that we don't have time to completely check the car out,and when the other party does not check out the car thoroughly when pick up is there, it only ends up making it bad for both parties. Not taking up for either party. If you trade for something that you did not look at in more detail and are not happy with, it is no ones fault but your own. We've all made this mistake before, you have to live and learn. I hope you guys can work this out. There is no need in talking about each other and try to make each other look bad. It is childish and in the end it doesn't solve anything.

If you still have the 55, I would like to trade something for it. So, if you see anything on my ads that you like, let me know.

Here is some interesting reading, could carnut70 be our good friend Jason??

http://www.streetcarforums.com/showt...24974-carnut70

http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/1/17/22786171-856.jpg

I'm not saying he is a scammer only that there is alot more the car needs than was told me or advertised. I'm just trying to give everyone a heads up so they don't make the same mistake I did. The pics of the car cleverly hide the dash that had a small crack in it the day after I got it, then a week later bondo was falling out. Transmission couldn't shift do to the fact that the tv cable was shoved into the wheel well. I'm at fault for not checking the car out personally but there is a little bit of an system here not just do to someone else what I did to you. Olds 48 went and picked it up for me and he said he felt very rushed while there and the car looks awesome on the outside so he as well as myself took alot for granted about the car. His name is Jason by the way and he is from Kingston, Tn. just outside Knoxville.

?Jason?
 

AMAZING,.............To Turn over a ROCK,and LOOK whats Hiding Under it??????

Just do a LiTTle Digging,you NEVER Know what MIGHT Turn Up?
Later
G 8)

From: CarNut70 To: Gimmethakick Date: 2011-12-21 20:32:54
Subject: Re: RJ RaceSpace:

Sorry to hear all that, Like i was saying when i got the car, i only told you what i new about it, i had only had the car a few days, and most of those days it was raining , so i didnt get a chance to really check it out good, I just told you what i seen that the car needed... I would suggest doing what i do when i get a car i dont really like, I offer it for trade, and move on.. everyone who trades gets a bad apple from time to time. if i would have had the car longer, i would have seen all that your saying, its not like i intentionally traded you a piece.. i didnt. I even told you the only time i drove the car , was just around my block one time, less than 1/4 mile. As far as trading back, I cant do that. i hope you dont hold that against me, like i said, i did not know the car at all.. i was up front and honest about everything.. i told you simply i jsut traded for it, and i didnt really know much about the car, i told you the paint and body look nice, but not perfect.. Things happen like this from time to time, and i do apologize for your misfortune and being unhappy with the car.. i wish there is something i could do. I wish you luck and happy holidays, I really dont know what i can do, if you think of something else that i can help with, i would be happy to, i dont have any money, as i barely get by every month, cause i dont work .. my back and knee issues keep me from working.. im just lucky i dont have alot of bills and my house is paid for.. let me know if you have any ideas at all , that i can help you out in any way.. I just want you to understand, It is not my fault your unhappy with the car, the guys you sent should have checked it out better. You did send me the offer to trade, i did not initiate the trade deal..thanks

That was his reply. If he was worried about restoring his reputation he would have said "hey man I'm sorry your unhappy with the car, it was your money spent on fuel and wear and tear on your truck so if you want to come swap back lets do it. The 55 wasn't in his name its got a Florida title. The 69 Camaro I traded him was way nicer and all new so I don't blame him for not wanting to trade back. Why is his reputation so bad anyway? What realy gets me about the whole deal is his attitude ( just do to someone else what I did to you).

Get your friends to look at the above pic and let's see if it is truly the above Dwarf,munchkin, :!: ''You know Follow the yellow brick road'' :!: :!:

I will but I do know his name is Jason and he's from the Knoxville Tn. area. What has he done wrong besides this? Like I said he didn't outright lie to me but when there are obvious things that are wrong with something you should disclose them. My friends went to pick it up not make the deal even though I wish they would have called me and went over the car with me on the phone. If I would have went he would have a black eye for leading me on a wild goose chase. I started this thread because I don't think he is honest and up front about what he sells or trades and to warn people not to buy anything from him sight unseen. Another thing, why would you have a different classified name than forum unless you don't want to be connected. I'll bet he signed in under the different name on accident.

I live right between the both of you :!: 2 hours either way :!:

So all this time we had a Wolfe in Prostreet1000 clothing, WTF?

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtop...ighlight=wolfe

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtop...ighlight=wolfe

well, well, well... :twisted:

Moving on... FYI, the camaro was nice, let me tell you some things about the car that i noticed and took care of before i sold it..
the bottom pully bolts were hand tight, one was stripped. everyone of the intake bolts were lose, when i pulled the motor, one of the converter bolts was totally gone and the other ones were lose, the starter was barely hanging on the engine, which i had to replace as the starter went bad.. the alternator was shot.. had to buy a new one.. The motor was out of time, because the dist. was tightened correctly.. the rear main seal was leaking, as well as the transmission pan was leaking bad as well. BUT DID YOU HEAR ME SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ALL THIS, NO, I FIXED WHAT WAS WRONG AND MOVED ON... THE difference is when i have problems i just fix them and move on instead of complaining, there are alot of people who complain about every little thing.. i do not.. these are not major issues but still needed attention, you may have not even known these thiings were wrong with the camaro, im not saying you did or didnt... but this is what i ran into when i pulled the motor.

Chris i do think your right on this one :!: His last post he never denied he was Jason Wolfe!! So now we all know who it is!! Good catch :!: :!: :!:

PROSTREET1000 wrote:
Also.. For those who may not see this... I will state i Did change my username to ProStreet540 , Hoping this will alleviate some confusion so i dont have to send out a Ton of messages explaining there mistake to every single person i have ever been in contact with...... i wih this would have never happened.. It makes things worse to see the real scammers out there continuing to post ads and the innocent one has to go through alot of trouble explaining what happed , so that i may keep my reputation clean... MAKES ME ANGRY for sure...

JUST THINKING ??????

stamped 8)

I did not Think i needed to reply, I do know who jason wolfe is , from the race track and car shows, i can tell you this my last name isnt wolfe, and i am not the guy you think i am.. name is jason moore, and has been since the day i was born... not the same guy, but good looking out though.. I hope i have resolved any issues on this trade deal, as i dont think i was in the wrong on this deal, and if i didnt disclose everything, its because i did not know everything.

When you sell something you are responsible not the guy you bought it from. I traded you not him so you need to disclose what your selling. I thought I was getting a car that needed a steering wheel and possibly a column for visual reasons not a must have. I know it needed a radio too. No big deal there. But the column wasn't even hooked up electrically and the console had a couple fine cracks like the dash that within a week became major. The tv cable not hooked up makes the car undrivable along with several other things like a hacked up wiring harness and stuff. I'm disappointed that I thought I was getting a drivable car and now I've had to do major work to this car and I'm still not done and its not drivable. I'm just disapointed.

I dont mind Trying to help you, like i said in a previous message, i would not trade back, a deal is a deal.. when one is made. however, i dont mind helping you , what do you need for the car or what can i do to make you feel better about the deal, i asked this before and i did not get a response, all i got back was a message saying you wanted to trade back.. so tell me what i can do, parts, or ?? i will "Try" and help to make you feel somewhat better about this deal if i can.. and i am NOT obligated to do so, but i dont have a problem doing that.. as i have said before i had not time to get to know this car, and from what i could see it looked like it was fair car.. not great, The car was a little edgy. but not bad from what i could see on the outside.. Just give me some ideas of what i can do to make the deal feel better for you.. Withing Reason...

one more thing.. take those goofy looking pics down of jason wolf , it really has no relevance to what we are talking about, and has nothing to do with this deal or what we are trying to accomplish, you should do more research before you start posting and thinking you found out some kind of secret identity or something, LOL, Like i said before i am not jason wolf. I dnt blame you for putting forth the effort and speaking your thoughts, so lets move on and try to make gimmethekick feel better about this trade, after all that is one of the reasons for this forum. isnt it.

No, I think that I will leave it up just a little longer... :wink:

......

I"ll take a few grand for starters since I have already bought everything from a wiring harness to a radiator to steering system.

Dwarf Munchkin?

:lol:

Scorp

?Jason?
 

I Realy BELEIVE the Jury is Still out on this 1,.....................?
Later
G :?

If it isn't him what a coincidence. 2 guys named Jason from the same city with the same shady trade-sales skills. I need to buy a lottery ticket. Whats funny is that his multiple user names are only a couple months old with no honor payments after he admits multiple sales and he tries to convince everyone what an honest guy he is .

?Jason?
 

~~~~~~WINNER,WINNER~Chicken DINNER~~~~~~~~~!
Later
G 8)

i said I would try and help, but im not just going to throw you a few thousand dollars.. just forget it, i was tryin to help. but your on your own

ONE last thing Gimmethe kick, anytime you feel like making good on Blacking my eye thing, Be a man, and make good on your threats!!! or be all talk and shut your mouth!!

and after i try and offer help you want to keep running that your mouth. Its not my fault you WERE TO STUPID OR LAZY TO COME LOOK AT THE CAR YOURSELF.. MAYBE YOU LEARNED A VALUABLE LESSON WITH THIS.... DONT TRADE WITHOUT SEEING THE CAR IN PERSON. I POSTED AN AD, YOU OFFERED YOUR CAR SO FAST I DIDNT HAVE TIME TO TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT THE CAR, YOU WERE READY THE NEXT MORNING TO SEND YOUR BUDDYS TO GET THE CAR.. AND IF YOU CALL THOSE GUYS YOUR FRIENDS ( WHO DONT EVEN CHECK THE CAR OUT) THEN MAYBE YOU NEED SOME NEW FRIENDS..

Ah, the true colors come shining through, funny Jason Wolfe used to shout n caps when he got mad too.
Well here's my last post then I will let the jury decide. If you follow this link and take a look at the red 70 Chevelle that you will notice ...

http://www.racingjunk.com/Chevrolet/...5-454-Now.html

http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/7/21/24682217-701.jpg

is the same as this video posted by wolferacingHQ



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYTi2...1&feature=plcp
:D

WOW !!!!! NOW WHAT JASON ??? 8)