Tom Jones AKA Tomsrods is a scammer
 

Tom Jones AKA tomsrod is a scammer, false advertisement
 

It's tomsrod not tomsrods!!!!! I stand corrected! Watch for his ad's on my old 66 Chevy 11. Any questions about the car ask me and I will tell you. Tom has deleted his ads as of now. I don't think he wants attention since he is being watched.

I sent him a message let's see if he responds :!:











Mark

first of all this guy goes buy SUPERBARTMAN. not rednova or whatever it is. 2nd i did not lie about anything im just going by what i was told. 3rd he is a liar and i can and will prov it. my last post on the tractor is here as states, there are no lies or none to be intended.
WILL TRADE FOR PRE 72
LIKE NEW
Ad #2083782 Posted:2010-12-30 23:20:01
This ad expires in 61 days.
$14,000.00
as you can see there is a date and time also the ad number. me and bart johnson traded on the first of jan after he called my house 2 times that day and talked, the thrid time i called him back and we talked about doing the trade that day.
why would i leave on a 4hr trip not knowing if i was trading or not. bart knew good and well what i did because of my job i work 28 days and off 28 days, i copied and pasted a pic of a tractor that didnt even look as good as mine, one pic. never did i say that was the same tractor or did i say anything about that tractor and he knows this i told him. the same story is told of the tractor in this ad as well. i drove to his house 4 or 5 hr trip, was at his house 3 or 4 hrs pulling the engine with my bro-in-law, he looked at it,inspected it, and liked it! nothing was wrong at the time of trade with it. he has a 5,6,or7 car garage with plenty of room and lights and had plenty of time to operate and inspect more. he heard it run and operate as well. so if you are this stupid bart johnson to get on here and lie thats another story. i will post all confersation we made on rj the past day,i have all my phone records also to prove anything, i did not mislead anyone or anything. anyone that trades off of one pic alone is not very brite in the head, you couldve changed your mind at anytime and i did not rush either. by the way you should really read the thing you have to check at the top before posting something not true.

here are some of the mess guys, i have more i can put on here also if ya want, idc who sees them i have nothing to hide, not by name or anything else. i do live in greenup,ky also. On [2011-01-21 08:37:19] SUPERBARTMAN wrote:
> > > > > > > > Tom,
> > > > > > > > You can talk and lie until you are blue in the face but the fact still remains that the tractor you advertised and the one I thought I was trading to was not yours but belonged to Abele Tractor and Equipment in Albany NY. That is FRAUD. I guess you have NO shame, ethics or morals either. Most crooks don't. Everyone will know what you did and you can't lie out of your own false advertising and fradulent ad's. No one will trade with you anymore. I will pay for the broken tractor repair that you switched on me but everyone will know. Shame!
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> > > > > > > > On [2011-01-20 23:31:22] tomsrod wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > ok thanks tom.
> > > > > > > > > On [2011-01-20 22:56:31] SUPERBARTMAN wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I don't text. More proof that you tried to cover up your fraud. I have every ad you ever ran in my files now. It's your ass and jail, that is all. I really hate to see you put your family through this. They are really nice and deserve better. I liked Johnny too. I knew there was a problem with you though. Things just didn't match up. After tomorrow the money for the repairs will be irrelevent and second nature.
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> > > > > > > > > > On [2011-01-20 22:49:09] tomsrod wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > my last post on tractor was on december 30th, i have proof ad 2083782, it was this ad you contacted me about a trade it on jan 1 about the same ad, we traded that night, and aso texted me on this same number on racing junk, so you stop studering and lien and be a man. thanks tom [2011-01-20 22:25:49] SUPERBARTMAN wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > When am I going to get that nice tractor in the picture? You know the one you don't own.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On [2011-01-20 22:12:26] tomsrod wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also here is the ad of the last ad i posted on tractor 2083782. Thats when you contacted me.You called me and said i see you got your tractor back online i have the hole conversation recorded on answer machine, so do not threated me my family or anyone i know. Do what you have to do, You waited 2 days anything could have happened and by the way your talking it did, I had a picture a massey ferguson tractor, I stated what I had for sale or trade, everything in my statments were true, there was no fraud commited. thanks tom[2011-01-20 21:49:07
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2011-01-20 22:03:42] SUPERBARTMAN wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dumb ass, THIS IS NOT YOUR TRACTOR. Take another look. I know you wanted it to be that is why you used someone else's tractor in your ad. FRAUD! NOT YOUR TRACTOR. FRAUD! You can't lie out of this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was the top of my law clsses in college and I took classes until just a few years ago. Tomorrow it all begins and the money is irrelivant. You asked for it!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2011-01-20 21:49:07] tomsrod wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no sir, you quit acting like a child.I never commited no fraud, and what your talking about is slander, read up on the laws. i never said no such thing about a guarantee a warranty or money back, im not asking for money back for my loss i suggest you do the same thank you. tom
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2011-01-20 21:29:23] SUPERBARTMAN wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the last time I am asking you tom, just pay the stupid bill. If not you will start getting contacts tomorrow about the fraud you committed. The bill will be irrelevant at that point and I will see that you pay for what you did. Just do it and quit fabricatin more lying shit. You are running out of lies.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2011-01-20 20:33:48] tomsrod wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You told me paint was about year old, you said that, so so much right for your word and it was not raining at time we unloaded tractor, and you did not give me nothing, i received a car without motor or trany, so you did not give me nothing and everything was as is in deal but you did say car was street legal and all lights worked and they did not and i did not misrepresent nothing, as for tires you looked at them yourselve, you looked at tractor you should said this then not now. thanks tom
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2011-01-20 17:36:03] SUPERBARTMAN wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In regard to the Chevy 11, the only holes in the lower firewall that I knew about was a couple where the MSD box was mounted. So you had to put a plug or couple of wires on the headlights. That is not a big deal. The brakes were disc brakes on the rear. Yes they were tight from sitting that is all. I restored the car 10 years ago and yes i painted it too. I did all the restoration myself. I think the car is great to be 45 years old and so do you. We both know what happened with the tractor and especially you know it. Not only is it misrepresentation it is fraud to advertise someone else's tractor then deliver a different one. That is what happened here.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need you to help pay for the tractor bill. You need to do the right thing. Let me know. My address is Bart Johnson 1357 Skelton Bluff Rd. Kingsport, Tn.37660
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bart
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2011-01-20 14:34:28] tomsrod wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We never did neg with a warranty or gaurentee on either side, and i never said i would pay a total bill. You used the tractor for 2 days and then called me at end of second day of using it and ask to help you a little and all I said was to call, nothing more. The night I delivered the tractor there was nothing wrong to my knowledge when I delivered to you, I told you to operate it and drive it and you refused there was no whinning or anything noticable at the time, also I would not have delivered it on a 4 hr trip if knowing something was wrong with it, the place i bought tractor from has been in buisness for 50 years and there was nothing wrong then. Put yourself in my shoes for a min. you told me the lights work and they did not, they was not even hooked up also you said the rearend was breaks and was not, there was holes at the bottom of the firewall that had to be fixed also Think of money I have already spent to get these things fix, trust me its been well over 1000.00 . Also, You have not heard me complain or ask for a dime to get these things fixed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2011-01-20 10:52:13] SUPERBARTMAN wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It took me a couple of weeks to get the 4 wheel drive unit and trans pulled apart on the tractor.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There were broken bearing parts and gear parts in the bottom of the case and the shaft was worn from operation of the tractor for a long time with a broken bearings and gears floating around. 2 gears were badly damaged on the 4 wheel drive shaft. The shaft and gears are encased in a bath of oil and It takes a long time to wear on the shaft under these conditions. We know it was already done when I got the tractor.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tractor dealer doing the repair is Eaton and Son Tractors and Repain in Blountville Tn. and the chief mechanic and owner is Melvin Eaton. Feel free to call him at 423-323-4902 if you have any questions. He has been in the tractor business and repair for 32 years.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The current bill is $795 parts and $260 Labor if they don't have to completely remove and dissemble the transmission to get the shaft out. They are not sure what it will take to get the shaft out to replace it. The total current bull is $1055. You said you didn't know that the tractor was broken when you brought it to me. This being the case the right thing to do would be to cover the repair expense of $1055 as I had previously requested when we talked about the problem with the tractor on the phone. It will be ready in a couple of days and I need the money to pick it up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I left messages on your cell and home phone yesterday when I got the total cost bill. My no. is home 423-246-1998 and cell is 423-742-0422. Call me or email me and I will give you my address again to send the money.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bart
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bart
common bart lets put phone calls and everything on here idc,let them judge this for themselves. you had plenty of time to say no and you begged to trade and you seen the tractor run and operate you was happy until 2 days later you tore it up then wanted me to pay for it. yea right

PRO-STREET BEAST
66 CHEVY ll
Ad #2102182 Posted:2011-01-17 22:09:42
This ad expires in 78 days.



1966 CHEVY ll ALL NEW.
NEW HEADLINER,CARPET,DOOR PANELS,DASH,RUBBER,WINDOWS ECT.
PAINT LESS THAN 1 YR AND EXTREMELY NICE,PRO STAR CRAGER LITES,NO TUB ON THIS ONE.CHROME IS LIKE NEW,FRAME TIED AND REINFORCED,8 POINT CAGE PAINTED SAME AS CAR,B@M RATCHET SHIFTER WITH TRANS BRAKE,SUMMIT ALUM GAUGES IN ALUM SUMMIT DISPLAY BOX,MALLORY TACH WITH SHIFT LIGHT,G-FORCE RACING SEATS,ECT.ECT.ECT.

ENGINE WAS A 70 MODEL VETTE 350/370 HP 4 BOLT MAIN. NOW IS A 383 STROKER WITH
ELDERBROCK PERFORMER RPM ALUMINUM HEADS WITH 595 LIFT VALVE LASH,24 1.5 ROLLER ROCKERS AND A SOLID ROLLER CAM.
CALLIES DRAGONSLAYER CRANK
MSD EQUIPTED WITH 8.5 WIRES,IGNITION,MSD PRO POWER HVC COIL,SUPER PRO MINI STARTER,CARRILO/TRW ALL FORGED,NEW ALUMINUM PULLEY SYSTEM WITH A 5 POINT BELT.
2 NOS CHEATER PLATE SYSTEMS WITH 2 NITROUS EXPRESS 15LB BOTTLES MOUNTED
15 GALLON FUEL CELL IN THE REAR WITH A 10 AN LINE
TRANS COOLER WITH ALL BRAIDED LINES FOR FUEL AND TRANNY FROM FRONT TO REAR.
POWERGLIDE WITH A 3800 STALL
FIRST STAGE OF NOS AT 175HP WHEN GAS IS TO THE FLOOR AND 2ND STAGE AT 250 HP.
FORD 9 WITH 456 GEARS WITH NEW DISC
BRAKE SYSTEM.
USE THIS CAR FOR SHOW / PLAY OR STREET / TRACK. THIS IS A VERY EXTREMELY NICE CAR.

here is the last post i made on the 17th about the nova before i left for work. it is now the 22nd i left on the 19th and took it off but will repost prob in a few days. i have spent a ton of money on this car now and also i took off the 8,9, or 10's i had on there from before cause i didnt know if it was true, i only post what im told, most of us traders dont have something long enough to even remember the color of the last trade so we have to go on somebody elses word of what it was.

common guys i really want someone to tell me how i scamed this guy. with as much time as he had looking at my tractor we traded for and as he said he loved it, i really want to know. somebody post and say im a no good sob or something please. please tell me how im a low life. common guys.
im really wandering on this superbartman aka rednova or whoever you go buy.lol

MikeandMike of Ocala Fl are not dependable and reneggers.
bartmans other post on here. he is a bi-polar person with a iq of 10 watch out fella's

here is my opinion.. if a guy brings me a vehicle, tractor, or whatever else it may be, to my home, it is up to me to inspect it at that time.. if he comes and we trade, i dont get up the next morning and realize "what did i do?" there is no sense because i own it.. thats called traders remourse..

i met tom jones when i first started on this site.. i can not speak for other people but i can tell you that the man has always been straight up with me.. he and i were talking trade on another nova he had listed a couiple weeks ago, and tom told me every single nit picking detail about the nova.. i later looked at the car in person and thought it was nice and that tom had picked his car too much.. "he was just being honest"

like i said, i speak for myself and tom has always been upfront with me.. this bart guy seems as if he has a case of the blues.. i will know in the future not to deal with him on trades because i dont baby trade.. if i trade and whatever i get falls into, i still own it..
"time to put your big boy pants on, and move on"

Welcome Back Bart-

I see your string of bad luck dealing with people continues. ;)

http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtop...er=asc&start=0

Scorp

Is this Tom Jones the singer. :lol:

ANOTHER SUPERBARTMAN AKA REDDNOVA WHINE THREAD. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Tom Jones AKA tomsrod is a scammer, false advertisement
 

Thanks Scorp.

Yes I trade a lot on here and have been trading all my life. Way, way before RJ. It is a hobby and used to be a business when I was a wholesale car dealer. If you trade enough sooner or later you will let your guard down and one gets you. I am guilty of that. He got me. It will cost me $1055 if they don't have to dissemble the trans. completely. If they do I am out the additional expense plus cost of towing the tractor to two different dealers. It will be fixed by next week I hope. I need it on my farm.

Tom Jones is slicker than snot. HE IS ONE OF THE BETTER, SLICKER ONES. He is a professional scammer. The second best liar I have ever seen. The other one I knew was so bad that lying Wink was his nickname and if you ever quoted him you had to pay whoever you were talking to $50 just to listen. We learned not to quote him too much! LOL!

Tom is ranting and raving about my 66 Chevy 11 that he traded for "rolling chassis only". Tom's brother in law Johnny helped me pull the motor and trans. while Tom walked around and pretended he didn't know anything. Some scammers do that you know. That way it is hard to hold them responsible. You get "I didn't know," He is real proud of it and should be. It is not everyday you can trade a broken down switched tractor to someone for a nice Chevy 11 like this. He thinks it is worth $28000 now and is already misrepresenting it. He has pulled all his ad's now but I have them.

Bottom line: ad. 2066300 false advertisement of someone else's tractor that Tom never owned. It is the same model etc. but 2 years newer and belongs to Abele Tractor and Equipment in Albany NY. Nice tractor. This is the one I thought I was trading for. Not only that, Tom took his picture from their ad. It's still on their site. Tom and I even discussed the backhoe on the back and Tom advised me he didn't get the backhoe with the tractor.
He assured me the tractor is in new condition and it looks it doesn't it. He did mention on the phone that it was a little dirty. You will see the setup.

Look at the pic. he posted on the other ad. 2083774. A little dirty isn't it. See where he was going in the scam. It's also got a top and no backhoe. Same tractor model, just 2 years older and not in new condition. Maybe just dirty. If you deliver it in the middle of a cold night in a rain storm most people wouldn't know the difference. The broken transmission will not noticed either. It does run and move. Just won't go in 4 wheel drive. Tom wasn't supposed to deliver the tractor until Sun. daytime but I got a call late Sat. that he was on his way and he had to come that night so his brother in law Johnny could come and help. I have found in my experience that scammers usually travel in 2's. Yep! They do!

I am guilty of trusting people a little much and I did that. Like I said, Tom is a professional scammer and slick as snot. Several people have come forward that Tom has scammed or tried to scam. There will be many more.

Bottom line, Bait and Switch and fraud on the internet is a crime. Tom is guilty of a crime and I am turning it over to (IC3) for prosecution.

Thanks for your interest but I will take care of this. Just ask Lying Tom why he advertised someone else's tractor for his own. He won't talk about this but he will talk about everything else in the world to distract you. If you quote him you will have to give me $50.

Have a great day Scorp!
I will see you in the Scammer Forums. I am letting the (IC3), FBI handle this. I am sure in your scammer hunt you are aware of them.

I think racefan got it right, you physically had this tractor in your hands, had time to inspect it thoroughly and still made the decision to trade. Sounds like traders remorse to me, you have got no case with internet fraud. Seems like you always get used in some deal on here, maybe you should stop trading...JMO :roll:

guys thanks for at least looking from my eyes, the tractor in the ad i even said it before was just a pic that looked like mine, when i got home from 28 days of work i took the other pics of my tractor. 678 hrs for a tractor is not hardly anything and the only thing he has to say about it the night we showed up was the tires are scuffed a little on top not worn but scuffed. HE LOOKED AT IT, HE INSPECTED IT, HE LOVED IT!!! then told me to pull it off and park it. i tried to get him several times to operate it and he refused to do so. also ME AND MY BRO-IN-LAW PULLED THE MOTOR AND TRANNY bart kept complaining that he was a old man and couldnt hardly do anything anymore, also bart im not any kind of mech and never claimed to be but some of us can turn a wrench from time to time! he has a 5, 6 or 7 car garage with lights to inspect everything, the tractor in my newest ad was a better looking tractor even, you called me, you wanted to trade and said it would only take 1/2 hr to pull the engine(that was bs) and YOU GAVE ME YOUR ADDRESS TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE THAT NIGHT. said he would pay half on gas also ($50.) was all i got, now how many of you could do the drive pulling a mid size tractor with a tahoe 4 or 5 hrs 1 way for $50 bucks? 2 DAYS AFTER A TRADE HE CALLS AND SAID I TRADED HIM A BROKE TRACTOR BUT IT WORKED FINE WHEN I DEL IT BART, THEN DEMANDS 1055 FROM ME, he couldve did anything to it ANYTHING IN 2 DAYS, i dont know about you guys but when i get a new toy im in / on it the next morning ready to go. AND FOR ANYBODY ELSE OUT THERE IF I EVER MAKE A DEAL I OFFER NO WARRANTY'S OR GARANTEE'S OF ANYKIND. SORRY. but anyhow im still here and still going to be trading and i will tell you everything to the best of my knowledge that i can. and if you make a trade with BART BE PREPARED TO HAVE A WARRANTY BECAUSE HE WILL FIND SOMETHING A FEW DAYS, WEEKS, YRS LATER TO SAY ABOUT IT. thanks tom

bart also i would love to know whos came forward about me scamming them so we could get them to come on here and explain how i did so? please if your going to say it and recieve post atleast prove it and back it up or say nothing at all. THIS GUY HAS DONE IT ALL ALSO FELLAS HE HAS A LAW DEGREE AND JUST QUIT STUDY 2 YRS AGO.LOL ALSO HE OWNS A CAR LOT FOR MANY YRS.LOL WHATEVER BART. YOUR BACKGROUND CHECK SAYS YOUR FULL OF S!@T. WHY GO BY TWO NAMES ANYHOW? REDDNOVA / SUPERBARTMAN? YOU REMIND ME OF A FAT KID IN A CANDY SHOP WITHOUT ANY MONEY.

I've heard this song before. Just the lyrics have been changed a little. :wink:

SUPERBARTMAN /REDDNOVA, It seems you were given oportunity to do your due diligence before the trade. You accepted its condition.....DONE DEAL!

I have traded with Tom a couple of times and I think he is a outstanding and honest person. I would do business with him again. Tom I am still in practice if you need anything or advise give me a ring.

Re: Tom Jones AKA tomsrod is a scammer, false advertisement
 

See me in the Scammer forums? Not likely.

Tomsrod: read the link I posted. It will tell you all you need to know.

Bart: Yawn.

S

Well look's like buyers remorse to me :!: Tom thank you for coming on here and clearing yourself :!: Bart had ample time to inspect the tractor while you pulled the engine :!: Ok Bart hear we go again Blah Blah Blah :!: I am sure the FBI has more inportant thing's to do other than this :!: Tom i wouldn't worry too much put a engine in that nova and drive it by Bart's house :!: :!:









Mark

All you have to do is google my home phone number bart you know what it is youve called enough. but for everyone else it 606-473-xxxx that way you know i live in GREENUP KY, its real close to ASHLAND KY. if you are going to say i live somewhere else at least do your homework.
And if im such a good scammer i did a piss poor job giving you so much time and taking so little for gas and not saying a word about the supposed street legal car i traded for with working light's, street tires,exhaust and the paint job you told me was 1 yr old that you say now is 10 yrs old.
My gosh man some people you cant make happy at all.

Tom Jones AKA tomsrod is a scammer, false advertisement
 

You are going to owne me a lot of money if you keep quoting your lies. I told you the paint was base clear and that is all. You liked it so much you advertised it as being so slick and wet it looked like you could slide off of it.

You traded for a rolling chassis. Yes the car is 45 years old but everything on the car is new and never used. The newest stuff stayed with me in the motor, trans and converter.

You have now admitted to using someone else's ad. and selling/trading their tractoras your tractor.

THAT IS FRAUD! DEAL WITH THE (IC3)

Tom Jones AKA tomsrod is a scammer, false advertisement
 

I have no remorse. I told Lying Tom when he wouldn't pay for the broken tractor the money was not an issue any more. I gave him a chance to be a man and correct the problem but it's just not in him.

Fraud is fraud! It's a matter of principal now.

sounds to me like traders remourse.you had plenty of time to check out the tractor while him and his bro-law was pulling the engine out of the chevy 2.now if you didn't take the time to look everything over that would fall back on you.i have never known of tom ever trying to scam anybody,and i know him pretty good.sounds to me like you need to stop trying to scam money out of somebody,after you already did a trade on a car that you have misrepresented.now superbartman/reddnova how can you sit there and tell people if they wanna know anything about that chevy 2 they need to ask you,when you don't even own the car anymore and the car has a new motor and tranny and several other new parts.sounds to me like tom got his ass burnt by you,but he is not gonna get on here and slam you over it.i think you just need get out of the trading business.

Tom Jones AKA Tomsrods is a scammer
 

Just explain ad 2066300. Lying Tom using a picture of someone else equipment to sell/trade his. He has now admitted it on here. FRAUD!

Hope he pays you well for coming forward. Are you a relative. I did make a mistake on in the trade and it was trusting a trader with a slippery tongue.

I have several others who was scammed by him that have come forward also. You can go with me to visit him in jail when (IC3) is done with him.

omg, john was there he heard you say it was only a yr old also bart. im not knocking the car either it does look like it was just painted. do what you have to do so not only can everyone on here laugh at you but the ic3 as well. POINT IS I STATED NOTHING UNTRUE ABOUT THE TRACTOR IN MY AD, YES I ADMITTED TO YOU BEFORE ABOUT ME USING A PIC THAT LOOKED LIKE MINE, DOES NOT MEAN THAT ONE WAS MINE AND WE DID NOT TRADE ON THAT ONE EITHER, GO BACK AND LOOK AT MY LAST POST ON IT BART I PUT IT ON THIS FORUM FOR EVERYONE TO SEE IT WAS ON DEC 30TH I SURE, AND WE TRADED ON THE 1ST OF JAN ON THAT POST, YOU EVEN WROTE TO ME ON THAT ONE, YOU CALLED ME ON THAT ONE,THE DATES SAY IT ALL. I HAVE EVERY PHONE RECORD ALSO OF YOU CALLING ME. YOU HAVE STILL BEEN SENDING ME MESS. ON HERE AND CALLING. QUIT HARRASSING ME AND MY FAMILY/ FRIENDS! I MADE NO FRAUD AND COMMITED NO CRIMES, YOU DID THOUGH BUT IDC BECAUSE I MADE MY DEC THAT NIGHT THE SAME AS YOU! YOU SAID AND RUN A AD THAT THE NOVA WAS STREET LEGAL DIDNT YOU? WAS IT BART? NO! I POSTED WHAT YOU HAD STATED ABOUT IT IN YOUR AD ON HERE AS WELL. MY STATEMENTS WERE TRUE ABOUT THE TRACTOR, YOU SEEN IT AND LIKED IT AT THE TIME. AFTER YOU RECIEVE IT ITS YOURS TO MAKE REPAIRS ON IF YOU TEAR IT UP NOT MINE! THE CAR YOU SAY IS STREET LEGAL IT HAD DRAG TIRES ALL AROUND RIGHT? NO EXHAUST, RIGHT? LIGHT DID NOT WORK RIGHT? THE LIST GOES ON ALSO BART AND YOU KNOW IT!
IF YOUR GOING TO DO SOMETHING THEN DO IT! I DONT CARE!
I'LL BE WAITING FOR THE PAPERWORK TO FILE OK. OR A CALL FROM A LEGAL OK.
BUT I AM PROMISSING YOU ONE VERY LARGE THING AND YOU BETTER HEED THE WARNING, AND YOU KNOW ITS TRUE. I AM A OFFICER WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND FORIEGN TRADES (CAPTAIN) AND ANY HARRASSMENT,THREATS OR ANY FAULSE STATEMENTS MADE AGAINST ME IS A CRIME!!! YOU KNOW THIS AND ALOT OF OTHER PEOPLE DO ALSO AS WELL. I'VE GIVIN YOU A CHANCE I WILL NOT BE SO KIND ANYMORE!!! TRY ME PLEASE!!!

JUST TO LET EVERYONE ELSE KNOW AS WELL, I WORK ON THE BOATS, I STEER THEM WITH FUEL BARGES TO HELP ALL YOU GUYS WITH YOUR RACING NEEDS FOR FUEL. IM NOT AFRAID TO STATE ANY OF MY PERSONAL INFO ON HERE. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.
FOR ANYONE NEEDING ANYMORE INFO ON THIS OR THE BART SITUATION FILL FREE TO CALL ME ON MY CELL AT 606-465-5719 FROM 12PM TO 6PM AND FROM 12AM TO 6AM I WILL DISCLOSE ANY OF MY INFO MASTERS LICENSE #'S ECT IF YOU WANT. TOM

Ad #2106648
NICE HUH! IF ANYBODYS INTERESTED LMK.LOL

Tom Jones AKA tomsrod is a scammer, false advertisement
 

The lies just keep coming. Remember what I said about most scammers coming in 2's. To back each other up in the lies etc.

You are done Lying Tom!

Tom Jones AKA tomsrod is a scammer, false advertisement
 

He now confesses! Now for the coverup he is acting like he told me. Lying Tom!

He is still creating lies on and on, over and over. I don't harrass anyone or have I called other than I believe it was Tues. or Wed. and left a message for you to call me back after I got the bill on the tractor.

Officer my ass. Pushing old rusty river barges around does not make you an officer. You might want to shut up about that. The company you work for might not appreciate you using their computer and time to defraud people. When you are investigated they will conficate those computers.

I did notice that when you copied some of the emails you and sent that you conveniently left some out that weren't to your advantage.

As far as the Chevy 11, you only traded to a rolling chassis and you got everything I promised and more when I pulled my engine apart to give you the special oil pan, oil pump and pickup that Chevy 2's have to have for a v8 to be installed in them. I gave you them because I knew you would need them. They weren't in the deal. Only the headers were in the deal. I had over $400 in them. I paid you $200 for the trans. because it was in the deal and kept it. You were not traded a street legal car but a rolling chassis.

Like I told you before you have turned into a babbling, stammering, stuttering idiot and the lies just keep coming. You are the second best liar I have ever known!

Tom Jones AKa tomsrod is a scammer
 

Oh creative Lying Tom, I have never had a car lot but I have floorplanned a few. I said I was a wholesale car dealer and was for many years before going back to college and getting a business and law degree. I continued with my education until I was quite older, not 2 years ago. The field I was in required that you stay up on business and law

then why did you state it was a street legal car in your ad if it wasnt bart? minus motor and tranny it still by far is not street legal. and by the way keep thinking that about old rusty barges.lol the job i do is far from what you think you know. haha and as i said before if your would pay attention to what i post it plainly says i have more if people want to see them, or better yet you post them on here with all the other people you keep saying ive did wrong. lol that is slander my friend what you are doing, i just hope when the time comes you can back up your words with proof,witnesses as i can and already have. you have did so much wrong to people by doing this same stuff before as i was told that its not even funny. trade and complain about how poor ol bart got ripped off.
like i said before and you know its true look at your old post on the car then look real hard on mine of the tractor. i never said not once anything about mine being the tractor in the pic because i knew mine looked much much better, but you did post a street legal car that was not even if the engine and tranny was in it!if your not afraid bart please post you last old ad so we can all see and be judged, also any other post you want to do.

bart all i want to know is this.. you keep saying fraud fraud fraud.. the tractor came to your house.. your house.. your house.. its not fraud if the man brought you the tractor for you to look at in order to make the deal. i dont care if i put a donkey on my ad and i bring you a 69 camaro. you obviously know the donkey is not the 69 camaro because i have brought it to YOUR HOUSE to inspect.. this is crazy, if i were tom, i would not put up with it..
tom there is such a thing as defamation of character, turn the tables on him, and he will go away..
baby traders on this site, i have never seen the like..

Mom and Dad make them stop. :cry:

On [2011-01-20 22:03:42] SUPERBARTMAN wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dumb ass, THIS IS NOT YOUR TRACTOR. Take another look. I know you wanted it to be that is why you used someone else's tractor in your ad. FRAUD! NOT YOUR TRACTOR. FRAUD! You can't lie out of this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was the top of my law clsses in college and I took classes until just a few years ago. Tomorrow it all begins and the money is irrelivant. You asked for it!

point #1 bart is a liar. you said until just a few yrs ago?

Tom Jones AKA tomsrod is a scammer, false advertisement
 

On [2011-01-20 17:36:03] SUPERBARTMAN wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In regard to the Chevy 11, the only holes in the lower firewall that I knew about was a couple where the MSD box was mounted. So you had to put a plug or couple of wires on the headlights. That is not a big deal. The brakes were disc brakes on the rear. Yes they were tight from sitting that is all. I restored the car 10 years ago and yes i painted it too. I did all the restoration myself. I think the car is great to be 45 years old and so do you. We both know what happened with the tractor and especially you know it. Not only is it misrepresentation it is fraud to advertise someone else's tractor then deliver a different one. That is what happened here.


point #2 bart is a liar. if everything you said was new then it must have been a new 10 yr old parts right? lol new is new bart 10 yrs old is old what is it new or old?

Tom Jones AKA tomsrod is a scammer, false advertisement
 

Tsamitto!!!!

OMG!
Such a petty complaint and you have the nerve to comment on my thread! I just read your complaint. That is a real big deal. You got to see this guy's complaint. LOL Baby trader! Give me $50 for quoting Lying Tom

i guess i will be the bad guy here :twisted:
TOM--i think you were 100% WROOOOOOOOOOONG AND CROOKED TO POST A PIC OF A DIFFERENT TRACTOR[ OTHER THEN THE 1 YOU HAD FOR SELL] ON YOUR ADD :evil:
that my fine friend is called bait & switch[in plain words--SCAMMING]

ON THE other hand RED--YOU CAN NOT MAKE ME BELIEVE THAT IN all YOUR INFINITE SCHOOLING YOU WERE NOT taught :idea: about SCAMS/ HOW TO LOOK FOR THEM/HOW TO DEFEND YOURSELF AGAINST THEM--DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH---PUNCH IN OUR SCAMMER SECTION--WE WILL TEACH YOU ALOT!!!!!!

by the way you both had plenty of time at REDS-place to look at both trades--SO--QUIT BITCHING :roll: :roll:

I THINK YOU BOTH GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED :cry:
now quit acting like babies and take your punishment and get on with your lives :?

LIVELY

Tom Jones AKA tomsrod is a scammer, false advertisement
 

racefan55.

The problem is the donkey I thought I was buying looked like a new 2004 Massey Ferguson 1440v tractor,real nice and the 69 Camaro I didn't get looked like a worn broken 2002 Massey Ferguson 1440v tractor that had lost a backhoe, lost half the rubber on the tires and a acquired a rickety wooden top and a busted 4 wheel drive unit.

The 2 donkeys were twins! Its just one was 2 years older and broken down and put up wet.
I will take the 69 Camaro any day. Want to trade me one to a broken down donkey, tractor? I promise it will be fixed!