OMG I cant believe this head failure????what kind is this???
 

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=167969

I saw this and couldn't believe it! Wow,a head failure,what kind were these?My first thought was a different brand,but oh my god,another "expensive"'' brand name failed,I dont believe it!

Looks like a casting issue and alot of spring pressure

i do not know what is so hard to believe...this is High HP racing... CHIT breaks...After all its Just metal anyway you spread it.....thats just part of it......before i could be dis-mayed i would have to know just how many failures these heads have had in this particular area.....otherwise its nothing unusal to see stuff break and come apart.....

My opinion

Bjuice,this is my point exactly,but it takes a seasoned veteran like yourself to see and realize this,thank you for your experienced observation to this.

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09-08-2009, 11:36 PM #43
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Originally Posted by josh peel
Porce casting is the answer to this problem. CFE/BMF heads are a Canfield casting. If you look at the material around the front head stud,there is only .80" of material. I had one do the same thing.

More like a ProComp casting.

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just to take a quote out of the thread you(gunho) posted.

people associate junk to procomp,this is post #43

ok so CFE/BMF and procomp are the same? so by pointing this out you are saying the CFE and BMF and Canfiels are the same as procomp? p.s. you should save up and paint that thing in your avatar........ :D :lol:
Also why do you concern yourself with other peoples cars when you dont even have one yourself?

don't need to save,just don't care

But you care how others spend their money? why is that ?hello Pot,this is kettle,can you hear me? :lol: :lol: :lol:

go complain on yellow bullet to the guy that posted it dummass.

Pow, bang, boom gotta love a litttl erock throwing once in a while.

CFE/BMF have had quite a few problems over the last couple of years. There are stories of brand new heads failing on start up due to thin casting areas,

Bottom line, no guarantee with racing parts, chit is going to break sometime or another, If it has not happened to you, consider yourself lucky.

criket,,,,,,,,criket,,,,,,,,,criket


:cry: :cry: :cry: :oops: :oops: :oops: :roll: :roll: :arrow:

Why will he paint your car? :lol: :lol:

And I agree ,it does not matter who"s it is it will indeed be broken in due time,but I would rather have a non running nice car that a slapped together basketcase,but thats just me.. :shock: :lol: get it yet Monte?

The funny thing is.......

The paint job dont matter. Its what is under the hood that matters most.

Than why the heck do you have that fast and furious decal kit on your little car? :shock: :shock:

don't know about that One Dirka ( maybe for some)....BUT....personally....i have always Favored looking the best at the track and still spanking their a$$.....who says you can't have Both ?






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Than why the heck do you have that fast and furious decal kit on your little car?

First of all that is my show car not my racecar. So yeah it has to look good to do good in the shows.


Bjuice....

I am not saying that you cant have both. I am just saying that somepeople put more money under the hood than to make the car to look good. Also people put all their money into their engines to not be able to afford the fancy paintjob or even a decent paintjob. It can also be to mess with peoples head to cuz alot of people think that the car runs like it looks.

thats not fair juice, bringing christy (christines evil cousin) into it,
she is on another level, she'll give you the RED EYE, don't look
at her eyes, you might turn in to grease, nice, enough said :wink:

Dirka i been doing this drag thing for close to 30 yrs.......and the largest pecentage of people who don't make an effort to make their car have a neat appearance most all share the same Philosophey..."AWWW its just a Race Car"..if i have heard that one time i have heard it 5 thousand....its got Nothing to do with fancy paint Jobs..what i am speaking of,,,its making your stuff neat and maintaining it well....most of these guys i am speaking of will have 3 inches of caked up rubber under their rear fender wells, 2 inches of grease and grim on their intakes etc.........Hey if thats your Gig Go for it.....

Anyone thats been around the drag strip knows the people i am speaking of....we all got them in our hometown..

i mean i just believe in washing my arm Pitts before putting deodorant on...but again thats my personal view of it...

( none of this is mean't toward anyone invloved on this post..its just My experience i have seen over the years)

she did that to me last Friday Night on that 141.8 mph Pass on 1 stage....dang neck still sore....lol......Ole Beeeeoatch is still on the trailer in the shop.....lmao :wink:

[quote="bjuice"]Dirka i been doing this drag thing for close to 30 yrs.......and the largest pecentage of people who don't make an effort to make their car have a neat appearance most all share the same Philosophey..."AWWW its just a Race Car"..if i have heard that one time i have heard it 5 thousand....its got Nothing to do with fancy paint Jobs..what i am speaking of,,,its making your stuff neat and maintaining it well....most of these guys i am speaking of will have 3 inches of caked up rubber under their rear fender wells, 2 inches of grease and grim on their intakes etc.........Hey if thats your Gig Go for it.....

Anyone thats been around the drag strip knows the people i am speaking of....we all got them in our hometown..

i mean i just believe in washing my arm Pitts before putting deodorant on...but again thats my personal view of it...

( none of this is mean't toward anyone invloved on this post..its just My experience i have seen over the years)[/quote

X2 ^^^^^^^^^ Well put again,I hate hearing"This car is junk,It will make a good drag car"

Oh dont get me wrong I know what your saying bout keeping it neat in appearance. I am just saying you can have a car that is painted with spray paint and still keep it neat. I hope I am explaining it right.

Well hope you may,but you are wrong......................

I can see that anything I say you are just going to degrade it anyways you want to. So I will just shut up since you think I am just an ignorant redneck that thinks I know everything when all you are oding is showing how ingorant you are.

Well thank you,its about time, just kidding ,I was proving a point here with people who know what they are talking about,my point was,step back and look at yourself before you degrade another person.I cant tolerate negativity,p.s. dirka with all the posting you do,you should learn how to spell.just my .02 buddy,no ill intent was meant here,again it was for racers who know #@&* happens,if you dont want to break it,leave it on the trailer.. :lol: :lol:

Ok I cant keep quiet here.

First comment......
I wasnt degrading anybody. All I was saying was that you dont have to have a fancy paintjob to run down the track. If anybody took that as that I was degrading them then Im sorry. Also I dont have any problem sitting in a car that does not have a fancy paintjob and going down the track in it. Every body panel can be a diff color and I wouldnt care. I know how expensive paintjobs are these days due to the fact that I do paint and body. Not everybody can afford them.

Second comment.......
Nobody is perfect in anything they do. Everybody misspells stuff all the time. Just because I dont use spell check or I type faster than what I am thinking of how something is spelt doesnt mean I am a piece of S***.

Dirka, dont be so sensitive, we are one big happy family :lol:

Well I am usually laid back but when someone insults myself or my intelligence I stand up for myself. I dont back down when someone does that either.

thats not 100% true Brodix and Canfield both made castings for cfe/bmf

I saw the title of the thread and who started it, and I LOL.

Gungho gets his payback. :D

Hey gungho, the post I posted the other day was meant as a friendly post. If you had been close to Texas and where going to be at a track close to me I would have wanted to meet up and bullshit and do some racing. As far as mine being a 79 and trying to compare to your 70 Z-28, look again, mine is a 72 not a 79. Sorry you took the post as an insult or however you took it. As far as me thinking my car is the fastest in Texas, not even close but I have alot of fun with it. As far as me needing to move on, nah, I think I will stay right where I am. I doubt with you being in MA. and me in TX. we will ever meet up but never the less, have fun and be safe doing it. OH, and to put my opinion in on the Pro-Comp heads, I have not ran them so I have no personal experience but I do have a buddy who bought the bare casting and said with good components in them they are OK.

Dam Brian, that car is wicked.

I just made it my desktop back ground on the computer here at work.

when I grow up I want one just like it, LOVE IT :wink:

I think someone lost a nut?

thanks a Bunch !!!...heres another Picture of the car in my shop with the hood on it....i took it with a cell phone its a little grainy but you can still make it out.


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bjuice, that car is perfection!!right stance,wheels ,color, it screams im BAD!! love it.

tod I thought you might like this :lol:

I think I got my feelings hurt.........

Will someone hug me, and tell me everythings gonna be alright?

juice that's a super nice nova,

the monte will get paint in do time.

and gunho I was just pulling your chain

we all know how much you like the procomp stuff.

There are really a lot more Chinese casting out there than people are willing to admit. I don't know who made the casting that started this thread, but not many of the head maufacturers have stepped up to the plate on improving their castings. I mean look at it this way, some people are running well over 300lbs spring pressure and .900 lift, this was unheard of a few yrs. ago, that head looks like it could have been cast with the same cores that a steel head would have been cast with, with steel being 200% or more stonger than alum. Plus alum mat'l cost 3 times more than steel, so they are trying to save money on the casting. Even the Chinese castings would be good if they would simply reduce the core size and build the deck and top side thicker. It's the almighty dollar savings, and hoping that no one will run the high spring pressures and the tall lift cams. If i had my way all the alum heads i run would be solid, but i run alcohol and don't have a cooling problem.

JMO

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